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Offline fudilligas

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IG or Not
« on: November 03, 2022, 11:04:32 PM »
Team B is leading 21-14 with less than 2 minutes remaining in the game with the ball on the B-25....The QB for Team A is being chased and just before he is tackled he throws a backward pass which goes OB at the B-35....Is this IG even though the ball was thrown backwards and there was a loss of yardage....or  is it IG because he threw the backward pass OB to conserve time

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Re: IG or Not
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2022, 11:17:54 PM »
Team B is leading 21-14 with less than 2 minutes remaining in the game with the ball on the B-25....The QB for Team A is being chased and just before he is tackled he throws a backward pass which goes OB at the B-35....Is this IG even though the ball was thrown backwards and there was a loss of yardage....or  is it IG because he threw the backward pass OB to conserve time
A backward pass cannot be illegal by definition.  7-4-1. 7-5-2.
If the QB tosses the ball backward and oob to conserve time, it is totally legal.  Redding's, P. 43.
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Re: IG or Not
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2022, 06:29:58 AM »
Agreed, IG only applies to forward passes.  Backward passes are always legal regardless of how “bad” they look.
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Offline AlUpstateNY

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Re: IG or Not
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2022, 07:52:07 AM »
Agreed, IG only applies to forward passes.  Backward passes are always legal regardless of how “bad” they look.

Not only "legal", but backward passes remain LIVE after being grounded.

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Re: IG or Not
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2022, 08:25:47 AM »
It isn't IG at all.  It's the next down at the B35.

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Re: IG or Not
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2022, 03:32:05 PM »
It isn't IG at all.  It's the next down at the B35.

You are correct in suggesting "Intentional Grounding" applies ONLY to "Forward Passes". NFHS:7-4 covers "Fumble & BACKWARD pass, 7-4-2 advises, "If a fumble or BACKWARD PASS is caught or RECOVERED by any player, he may ADVANCE. " NEVER blow a backward pass dead simply because it might be incomplete (Behind, at or Beyond the NZ).

NFHS 2-31-6 confirms that, stating, "A backwards pass ends when it is caught, RECOVERED or is Out of bounds."
« Last Edit: November 04, 2022, 03:38:46 PM by AlUpstateNY »

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Re: IG or Not
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2022, 03:35:45 PM »
Any player at any time can throw the ball backward.  If it goes oob, the clock stops.
The next down will start where the ball went oob.
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