wedge, when flag?

[vtwin900]

when ball kicks and receive team are on wedge with tree players, shoulder to shoulder, the ball finish in the end zone (so touchback), no player touch it. is it useful to flag? for delcine after?
thank

[Kalle]

This is not a foul so there's no reason to throw a flag (see the NCAA play situations bulletin 1/2010). I think you have to hold your flag until there is a return in the field of play when you see an illegal wedge formation during the kick or while the runner is still in the end zone.

[vtwin900]

thanks for answer, and if ball finish out of bounds? there's flag for this foul (oob) so we must to put on for illegal wedge to? for decline these fouls (because two live ball fouls).

[Kalle]

There's (currently) no ruling on a free kick out of bounds, so we would have offsetting fouls (if the ball was untouched by team B), rekick.

[Atlanta Blue]

There's (currently) no ruling on a free kick out of bounds, so we would have offsetting fouls (if the ball was untouched by team B), rekick.

I'm not disagreeing, but this makes NO sense what so ever.  If a wedge is not a foul on a touchback because there is no return, then why is it a foul on a kick out of bounds? 

[Andrew McCarthy]

I'm not disagreeing, but this makes NO sense what so ever.  If a wedge is not a foul on a touchback because there is no return, then why is it a foul on a kick out of bounds?  

And why is it not even a foul on a touchback if they set up the wall and A comes down to break it up prior to the touchback?

[Kalle]

I'm not disagreeing, but this makes NO sense what so ever.  If a wedge is not a foul on a touchback because there is no return, then why is it a foul on a kick out of bounds? 

I'm expecting a play situation bulletin to address this, too

[cperezprg]

bulletin nš2

6. Team A kicks off at its 30-yard line. During the kick receiving team players B43, B67 and B80 drop back and form a three-man wedge at their 16-yard line to block for the return. The untouched ball rolls out of bounds at the B-10.

RULING: Offsetting fouls. Team A re-kicks at the previous spot. (New rule, 6-2-1, 10-1-4)

http://www.refstripes.com/forum/index.php?topic=6867.0

[jrfath]

My opinion, flag it when you see the wedge.  Then have the R wave it off if there is a touchback.  This way, you will get the spot of the foul correct in case the ball is run out of the end zone.

[Morningrise]

By the way, as a wing, do I have to switch to double-weight flags now, just in case a wedge foul happens? I like my standard-weight flags, but I can't throw those to the B-30 when I'm standing on the far pylon.