Untimed down

[Sjref]

4th qt, 1 point game. 7
Seconds remain in the game. A 2 & 8 @50. A1 passes to a2. B 3 is flagged for defensive holding. .4 seconds remain on the clock. I know enforcement of pentaly, but what happens with clock after administration of pentaly? Clock starts on ready? Untimed down? Clock didn't run out DURING play. Start on snap?

Please cite rules if possible

[Bwest]

Turn tenths of a second off your clock and you can avoid these. 

Assuming A2 was tackled inbounds, the clock will be starting on the ready here.

The book copy I have nearby isn't 2014 so I cant give you a reference.

[Sjref]

Was game clock and not wrist clock so really was out of our control.
I don't have copy of rule book on me (in car, cold out) but it gives references to give a untimed down if the clock runs "out during the down". It's higlighted in gray meaning a change/new rule. I know In years past we would start clock on ready and then give an untimed down, but rule now seems to only agree with that assessment when it runs out during play .

Just wanted to hear some other opinions on it

[Bwest]

Was game clock and not wrist clock so really was out of our control.
I don't have copy of rule book on me (in car, cold out) but it gives references to give a untimed down if the clock runs "out during the down". It's higlighted in gray meaning a change/new rule. I know In years past we would start clock on ready and then give an untimed down, but rule now seems to only agree with that assessment when it runs out during play .

Just wanted to hear some other opinions on it

Yeah, that's the new rule change this year. Last year there would have been an untimed down, this year they have .4 seconds to snap the ball with the clock running on the RFP.

[Martin Kiff]

How can the offense be "Set" for a second, after the ready is blown with .4 seconds on the clock.  The game is over.  Get rid of the 10ths of a second, it will only cause problems.

[HLinNC]

Was game clock

What is being suggested is that your referee instruct the clock operator to disable the tenth of a second reading on the clock to avoid this scenario.  Some clock controls have that ability.

However, if the ECO is not an official, it is a rare thing, at least around here for them to bother to report to the field or dressing room for official instructions.

[Atlanta Blue]

How can the offense be "Set" for a second, after the ready is blown with .4 seconds on the clock.  The game is over.  Get rid of the 10ths of a second, it will only cause problems.

They can be set before the RFP.  Nothing requires the 1 second set to be AFTER the RFP, only after the huddle.

[Suudy]

They can be set before the RFP.  Nothing requires the 1 second set to be AFTER the RFP, only after the huddle.

Not to be too pedantic, but it's after any shift. Of course, moving from a huddle into formation is a shift. But there are other scenarios.

But your basic point is correct. Be in formation ready to snap at least 1 sec and snap as soon as you hear the whistle.

[Tom.OH]

I ask the ECO to turn off the tenths, some can ,some can not/will not. However in this situation with tenths on clock will read .4, with tenths off clock will read :01

[Ralph Damren]

IMHO, the white hat should announce : "The clock WILL START on my whistle." I don't want A to be surprised if they linger and the period ends.

[fudilligas]

How can the offense be "Set" for a second, after the ready is blown with .4 seconds on the clock.  The game is over.  Get rid of the 10ths of a second, it will only cause problems.

If you can't get rid of the 10ths of seconds, get rid of the timer!!!!!