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Texas Topics / Re: PROP Approved Rules changes - now we wait for the UIL
« Last post by Cosmokramer1 on April 30, 2024, 01:23:06 PM »
Cosmokramer1, the old-new rule that I mentioned was back in 2018 when TASO pushed hard to fix back pad and knee pads but gave us a no leg to stand on to enforce, so the coaches pushed back harder and thus, we have the situation we have had for the past few years. Now with what appears to be an UIL enhanced proposal, the one ElvisLives stated, to combat the knee pads situation with actual penalties to enforce.

Thank you, and thank you Elvis (Robert).  So my take on it now is no different than my take on it last year and the year before.  Not being disrespectful to the UIL but when it comes to uniform rules (either theirs or the NCAA) I pretty much don't care anymore.  Why you might ask?  Because too many of us got burned by the UIL several years ago when they implemented rules associated with the uniform color and number color.  The UIL (and TASO) informed officials to enforce the rule that numbers had to be of contrasting colors to the jersey.  So many did only to then watch, that same year, three state championship games being played at AT&T having teams with what was considered illegal jersey/numbers.  And UIL let them play without penalty. 

I will certainly ask a player to cover his knee's or pull his jersey over his back pad, but I absolutely will not remove that player from the field or penalize them for not doing so.  The UIL will tell us they support our enforcement but those actions come with consequences related to the coaches we work for (as Elvis previously mentioned) that counters UIL's supposed support.  So I'm not doing it again!

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Texas Topics / Re: PROP Approved Rules changes - now we wait for the UIL
« Last post by Etref on April 29, 2024, 07:59:25 PM »
You can go back to the 90’s with the sock rule that lasted about a year then went away
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Texas Topics / Re: PROP Approved Rules changes - now we wait for the UIL
« Last post by Zebra Watcher on April 29, 2024, 07:24:18 PM »
Cosmokramer1, the old-new rule that I mentioned was back in 2018 when TASO pushed hard to fix back pad and knee pads but gave us a no leg to stand on to enforce, so the coaches pushed back harder and thus, we have the situation we have had for the past few years. Now with what appears to be an UIL enhanced proposal, the one ElvisLives stated, to combat the knee pads situation with actual penalties to enforce.
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Texas Topics / Re: PROP Approved Rules changes - now we wait for the UIL
« Last post by ElvisLives on April 29, 2024, 06:09:10 PM »
Zebra Watcher, forgive my ignorance but what old but new rule are you referring too?  I see mention in this thread about the UIL adopting the uniform rule but, as others have asked, what uniform rule?  Or are you referring to something completely different and I've missed it?  So help me out here please and I'll be happy to give you my thoughts.

Cosmo, the document attached to the lead post in this thread shows a proposed ‘enhancement’ to the enforcement process for uniform rules (applicable to all, but targeted at the knee pad/pants covering the knees rule), that the PROP REJECTED for NCAA football. But, that doesn’t mean the UIL can’t or won’t adopt this, or some other modification of the uniform/equipment rule enforcement process. So, we are awaiting the UIL’s 2024 “Exceptions” to the NCAA rules, to see which, if any, of the proposed and/or approved NCAA rule changes they will approve, or any new rules they will introduce (like they did with the defensive rusher rule on field goal attempts in 2023).
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Texas Topics / Re: PROP Approved Rules changes - now we wait for the UIL
« Last post by Cosmokramer1 on April 29, 2024, 03:55:26 PM »
You are right Etref. I apologize for my part in taking this thread in the wrong direction for what it is intended for.
Thank you for the welcome Cosmokramer1. What are your thoughts on this old but new rule?

Zebra Watcher, forgive my ignorance but what old but new rule are you referring too?  I see mention in this thread about the UIL adopting the uniform rule but, as others have asked, what uniform rule?  Or are you referring to something completely different and I've missed it?  So help me out here please and I'll be happy to give you my thoughts. 
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National Federation Discussion / Re: Arm Sleeves
« Last post by dammitbobby on April 27, 2024, 08:58:12 AM »
Thanks, I'll definitely try those, I'm a big fan of Stance and Bombas socks... it's amazing the difference a quality pair of socks can make in how your feet feel - I'll never, ever, ever go back to wearing cheap cotton socks again.
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National Federation Discussion / Re: Arm Sleeves
« Last post by sczeebra on April 27, 2024, 06:01:25 AM »
While we were talking about socks here I just wanted to post a thread(pun intended) for a company close to Ralph in Vermont, Darn Tough Vermont. I have been wearing wool socks as part of my uniform and at home for years. If anyone is not familiar with the wearing of wool IMHO there is nothing better. They will keep your feet regulated (warm or cool) but the best part of the deal is as Frank Zappa would say, you will avoid Bromhidrosis the legendary Stink-Foot. Try them and watch out where the huskies go!
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Texas Topics / Re: PROP Approved Rules changes - now we wait for the UIL
« Last post by Zebra Watcher on April 26, 2024, 04:58:52 PM »
You are right Etref. I apologize for my part in taking this thread in the wrong direction for what it is intended for.
Thank you for the welcome Cosmokramer1. What are your thoughts on this old but new rule?
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Texas Topics / Re: PROP Approved Rules changes - now we wait for the UIL
« Last post by Etref on April 26, 2024, 01:01:10 PM »
Perhaps all should reread the Guidelines for Texas Forum stickied at the top of this forum.
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National Federation Discussion / Re: Arm Sleeves
« Last post by AlUpstateNY on April 26, 2024, 07:58:00 AM »
1982 :  1-5-1d.... Pants required.

As an Umpire...I would like to personally thank whoever came up with this one....otherwise I'd spend my late Friday nights rinsing my eyes with Clorox!   :!#

I believe "Rule making" is often the simplest way of avoiding/eliminating really stupid objections that most often amount to abstract nonsense.  Unfortunately, "Creative thinking" too often produces little more than "Why can't we" nonsense.  Football, like any/every other game, creates rules to maintain a level, consistent playing opportunity and are generally intended to realistically create practical guidelines for  general participation, applicable for ALL participants.  Annual rule reviews, considerations & adjustments (where/when necessary) are designed to insure continued relevance to each specific sport.

Such periodic reviews are designed to adjust rules, where considered necessary, to maintain an/or continue relevance to their particular sport/activity, and eliminate/avoid irrelevant modifications that are deemed unnecessary, or do not apply to general participation to the intended audience.

Participants, Coaches & Administrators are REQUIRED to accept & adhere to their chosen sport's current rules. Should/If/When existing rules/requirements become objectionable, the athlete/coach/administrator has absolute discretion to consider wide range of alternate activities to consider participation each of which, very likely require their own rule requirements, based on their own unique activity.
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