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Title: PF Facemask - Enforcements?
Post by: NVFOA_Ump on September 13, 2013, 04:34:53 PM
Play 1:  3rd @ 10 at the A-25 yard line.  QB A-12 takes the snap and rolls out on a run/toss option play.  At the A-27, just as he is being tackled by the facemask by B-91, he tosses throws a backward pass to RB A-22 who then runs to the A-42 where he is tackled and ruled down at the A-42.  What are the possible options here with rules references please?

Play 2:  3rd @ 10 at the A-25 yard line.  QB A-12 takes the snap and rolls out on a run/toss option play.  At the A-27, he is grabbed by the facemask by B-91, where the force of the foul spins him around and he gets free and then continues to run to the A-42 where he then is tackled and ruled down at the A-42.  What are the possible options here, again with rules references please?

Title: Re: PF Facemask - Enforcements?
Post by: TXMike on September 13, 2013, 04:43:26 PM
1. - fwd or backers toss?

2- end of run
Title: Re: PF Facemask - Enforcements?
Post by: dvasques on September 13, 2013, 05:10:40 PM
Mike, you ask coz 1 would be previous spot if forward toss?
Title: Re: PF Facemask - Enforcements?
Post by: NVFOA_Ump on September 13, 2013, 05:20:50 PM
1. - fwd or backers toss?

A backwards pass
Title: Re: PF Facemask - Enforcements?
Post by: JasonTX on September 14, 2013, 12:49:25 AM
A backwards pass
  End of the related run is the basic spot.  The rule was changed a couple years ago that previously stated that there could only be one running play behind the line of scrimmage.  Now the rule is that there can be multiple runs.  This is why it's now important to know when the foul occurred. 10-2-2-d and 2-25-8-e.
Title: Re: PF Facemask - Enforcements?
Post by: Hawkeye on September 14, 2013, 09:25:11 AM
Play 1:  3rd @ 10 at the A-25 yard line.  QB A-12 takes the snap and rolls out on a run/toss option play.  At the A-27, just as he is being tackled by the facemask by B-91, he tosses throws a backward pass to RB A-22 who then runs to the A-42 where he is tackled and ruled down at the A-42.  What are the possible options here with rules references please?

The FMM occurs during A12's run (even if it occurs while the backward pass is in the air).  The basic spot is the A-27 (end of A12's run).  Since the foul is by team B it is enforced at the basic spot 15 yards via the three and one principle.  Team A has two options - Take the result of the play (decline the penalty) - A 1/10 A-42 or accept the penalty - A 1/10 A-42.
9-1-8-e, 2-25-8-e, 2-30-4-c, 10-2-2-d-1-b, 10-2-2-c-3

Play 2:  3rd @ 10 at the A-25 yard line.  QB A-12 takes the snap and rolls out on a run/toss option play.  At the A-27, he is grabbed by the facemask by B-91, where the force of the foul spins him around and he gets free and then continues to run to the A-42 where he then is tackled and ruled down at the A-42.  What are the possible options here, again with rules references please?

The FMM occurs during A12's run.  The basic spot is the A-42 (end of A12's run).  Since the foul is by team B it is enforced at the basic spot 15 yards via the three and one principle.  Team A has two options - Take the result of the play (decline the penalty) - A 1/10 A-42 or accept the penalty - A 1/10 B-43.
9-1-8-e, 2-25-8-a, 10-2-2-d-1-b, 10-2-2-c-3