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Title: Measurement Tx HS Champ Game
Post by: TXMike on December 20, 2014, 07:47:43 AM
http://youtu.be/3I0W2mwbbws


Even the 3 year old figured it out  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ulJJKqDt_w

Title: Re: Measurement Tx HS Champ Game
Post by: Rulesman on December 20, 2014, 08:36:43 AM
Unbelievable!
Title: Re: Measurement Tx HS Champ Game
Post by: Wingmanbp on December 20, 2014, 08:47:38 AM
Thats crazy because the angle I saw on the big screen showed it to be right on the stick. Thats clearly short
Title: Re: Measurement Tx HS Champ Game
Post by: TXMike on December 20, 2014, 08:57:39 AM
Welllll.....some will remember the demonstration I did after the outback bowl which shows how this can happen. 
Title: Re: Measurement Tx HS Champ Game
Post by: DallasLJ on December 20, 2014, 09:18:36 AM
Lucy . . . someone's got some 'splaining' to do.
Title: Re: Measurement Tx HS Champ Game
Post by: Legacy Zebra on December 20, 2014, 10:05:48 AM
The other major thing I saw in this game was a 9-1-4 targeting that was flagged, but the player was not disqualified. Unfortunately, I don't have a video or specific time. It was late in the 4th quarter, Cedar Park had the ball. There was pass across the middle and number 2 from Ennis made forcible contact to the head of the receiver. The R gave the "Targeting" signal, announced it as "Helmet to Helmet Contact", and did not DQ the defender.
Title: Re: Measurement Tx HS Champ Game
Post by: JasonTX on December 20, 2014, 12:27:44 PM
The referee didn't know which way to signal.  Rule number 1 for me.  I make sure both teams captains see that we are short or its a first down.  Leave no doubt about it.
Title: Re: Measurement Tx HS Champ Game
Post by: Diablo on December 21, 2014, 03:49:52 PM
Lucy . . . someone's got some 'splaining' to do.

More than just one is at fault.
The B is holding the ball and looking down from ~2'.  The U is pulling the stake and looking straight down.  And the S sneaks a look as well.   
Title: Re: Measurement Tx HS Champ Game
Post by: Cowman52 on December 21, 2014, 07:58:45 PM
If you dare question your white hat and its Monday afternoon 7th grade games from now til h freezes over.  Passing gas in prayer meeting will be forgiven but not that.
Title: Re: Measurement Tx HS Champ Game
Post by: fencewire on December 21, 2014, 08:13:21 PM
If that's the case, they need better white hats.  Referee is just a position on the field, as likely to screw up as any other position, if they are so egotistical that they are above reproach by their peers, then they aren't doing their crew or the game any favors.   Typically, those are the guys that spend all their time worrying about what other positions are doing and so they neglect their own. 
Title: Re: Measurement Tx HS Champ Game
Post by: Etref on December 21, 2014, 08:20:29 PM
If you dare question your white hat and its Monday afternoon 7th grade games from now til h freezes over.  Passing gas in prayer meeting will be forgiven but not that.

Then you are not doing your job! When I had the white hat I expected my guys to say something, I may have the final say but they need to speak up. If I see something I thing is wrong I will say something regardless of the,level of play.
Title: Re: Measurement Tx HS Champ Game
Post by: JasonTX on December 22, 2014, 09:09:37 PM
If you dare question your white hat and its Monday afternoon 7th grade games from now til h freezes over.  Passing gas in prayer meeting will be forgiven but not that.

Not where I'm from.  Our crews are 5 guys who agree to be a crew and the Referee is not always the ones who form the crew.  In fact, I had 4 guys who asked me to be their Referee so I agreed.  At any time on any of our crews if the majority of the members want to boot the Referee then he will be the one looking at working 7th grade games.  As mentioned in another reply, the Referee is just another position and is no more powerful than anyone else on the crew.
Title: Re: Measurement Tx HS Champ Game
Post by: Mata on December 22, 2014, 10:08:08 PM
Unbelievable!

WOW. They are bad. One sided officiating the hole game. That crew miss a lot more then mesering. Hope they don't host the mesering clinic at the state meeting this summer. Wow
Title: Re: Measurement Tx HS Champ Game
Post by: Etref on December 23, 2014, 08:03:15 AM
WOW. They are bad. One sided officiating the hole game. That crew miss a lot more then mesering. Hope they don't host the mesering clinic at the state meeting this summer. Wow

Hope you do not host the spelling bee either!
Title: Re: Measurement Tx HS Champ Game
Post by: Welpe on December 23, 2014, 09:15:23 AM
WOW. They are bad. One sided officiating the hole game. That crew miss a lot more then mesering. Hope they don't host the mesering clinic at the state meeting this summer. Wow

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Title: Re: Measurement Tx HS Champ Game
Post by: Wingmanbp on December 23, 2014, 09:33:36 AM
If you dare question your white hat and its Monday afternoon 7th grade games from now til h freezes over.  Passing gas in prayer meeting will be forgiven but not that.
If I cant question my white hat then I will leave that crew because I don't know any referee that is that good and knows everything there is to know. I couldn't work with someone that is that way
Title: Re: Measurement Tx HS Champ Game
Post by: bkdow on December 23, 2014, 01:41:11 PM
OH MY.  Some things are judgment and position....how do you miss that?
Title: Re: Measurement Tx HS Champ Game
Post by: ECILLJ on December 23, 2014, 02:12:09 PM
More than just one is at fault.
The B is holding the ball and looking down from ~2'.  The U is pulling the stake and looking straight down.  And the S sneaks a look as well.   

It looks like U is talking as R begins to give the signal that it will be 1st down for B. R then hesitates and looks down the stake a second time and changes the call. Could U have had a bad angle and tried to correct R  with the original call? If so, R needs to exert a little confidence and leadership.
Title: Re: Measurement Tx HS Champ Game
Post by: 940AC on December 24, 2014, 07:30:20 PM
Hope you do not host the spelling bee either!

 LOL