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Football Officiating => National Federation Discussion => Topic started by: SCHSref on August 15, 2020, 11:02:30 AM

Title: False start by QB??? What ya think?
Post by: SCHSref on August 15, 2020, 11:02:30 AM: https://youtu.be/8pcca3uoaG8
Title: Re: False start by QB??? What ya think?
Post by: eprov on August 15, 2020, 11:45:31 AM: You could let that good. Looks like he forgot his own snap count and his movement backwards was smooth. There was targeting on the return by 13. he lowers his head.
Title: Re: False start by QB??? What ya think?
Post by: oklahomaRef on August 15, 2020, 11:46:29 AM: I disagree, since you can have one player in motion going backwards or parallel to the line of scrimmage, I didn't see anyone else moving at the time of the snap. I do agree he probably was moving backwards expecting a earlier snap, but since you can have one in motion (backwards or parallel to the line) I do not have a flag. Maybe you could argue the running back had moved and was not set for a full second and then if that was you interpretation then you could flag for illegal motion. I would do a little preventative officiating after the play and let the QB know had anyone been in motion when he started moving back he would have been flagged.
Title: Re: False start by QB??? What ya think?
Post by: refjeff on August 15, 2020, 02:43:44 PM: The offense does not gain any advantage because of the QB's motion.

I am more likely to tell the QB to make sure his RB is set a full second, but in truth it is the RB who should be better coached to get set.

I do not have a foul.
Title: Re: False start by QB??? What ya think?
Post by: Derek Teigen on August 15, 2020, 04:17:24 PM: Quote from: SCHSref on August 15, 2020, 11:02:30 AM
https://youtu.be/8pcca3uoaG8

with out reading any responses I am going to say this is not a false start. My reasoning is the quarterback is in motion and you can have one player in motion at the snap if everybody has been set for 1 second.
Title: Re: False start by QB??? What ya think?
Post by: HLinNC on August 15, 2020, 04:29:36 PM: RB is set. He's fine.
Title: Re: False start by QB??? What ya think?
Post by: SCline on August 15, 2020, 05:24:58 PM: I have no false start or procedural fouls
Title: Re: False start by QB??? What ya think?
Post by: SCHSref on August 15, 2020, 06:44:45 PM: What about illegal shift?
Title: Re: False start by QB??? What ya think?
Post by: refjeff on August 15, 2020, 06:49:47 PM: Quote from: SCHSref on August 15, 2020, 06:44:45 PM
What about illegal shift?
Too picaynue.

I might say something about being set.

No advantage. No flag.
Title: Re: False start by QB??? What ya think?
Post by: bama_stripes on August 15, 2020, 08:16:01 PM: No foul by the QB or RB. The hit by #3 is another story.
Title: Re: False start by QB??? What ya think?
Post by: Derek Teigen on August 15, 2020, 08:24:45 PM: Quote from: SCHSref on August 15, 2020, 06:44:45 PM
What about illegal shift?

my understanding is that everybody was set for 1 second that there can be somebody in motion at the snap? so no illegal shift.....
Title: Re: False start by QB??? What ya think?
Post by: Derek Teigen on August 15, 2020, 08:35:05 PM: Quote from: bama_stripes on August 15, 2020, 08:16:01 PM
No foul by the QB or RB. The hit by #3 is another story.

that was a dangerous hit....very uglyl
Title: Re: False start by QB??? What ya think?
Post by: CalhounLJ on August 17, 2020, 12:30:42 PM: The pass was uglier.
Title: Re: False start by QB??? What ya think?
Post by: ilyazhito on August 17, 2020, 04:22:53 PM: No foul on the QB. #3 White commits targeting during the return.
Title: Re: False start by QB??? What ya think?
Post by: juxone on September 13, 2020, 12:25:05 PM: Quote from: ilyazhito on August 17, 2020, 04:22:53 PM
No foul on the QB. #3 White commits targeting during the return.

Absolutley ..targeting byWhite #3.