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General Discussion / Re: Officiating Other Sports
« Last post by ElvisLives on June 20, 2026, 05:37:38 PM »
We all have our own stories, and reasons for working - or not working - multiple sports. So much of those decisions depends on family and primary occupation considerations. Family must be priority, but that doesn’t have to limit your progress. To reach the higher levels in any sport, there will be missed birthdays, anniversaries, school concerts, etc. But, you find ways to make up for those lost events. Compounding those with multiple sports makes it even more difficult.
Me?
I am in my 51st season of on-field football officiating, which includes 14-seasons of FBS football (99-2012). I also had a 10-season career in baseball, including one summer of National Association professional baseball (Gulf Coast League).
Baseball occurred before I was married and had a child (son). As others have alluded, I experienced my share of “parent ball,” and concluded that I wanted nothing more to do with that and limited my baseball involvement to high school, college, and professional. I hung up my mask (after I was married, but before we had our son), when high school, in particular, became nearly an every day activity. But, I was blessed to have been able to work the State Championship games for four consecutive years.
After that, I just stuck to football. After our son got old enough, I would take him with me to HS games, and let him serve as the “clip guy.” During the FBS career I mentioned, I was able to take family with me to our summer clinic (Park City, Utah), as well as a few games each year. All of those things helped balance missed family events.
But, I am clearly blessed to have family that allowed me to participate in these activities, and accepted the trips, etc, as ‘offsets’ for any missed family events. At any time, if it had come down to them, or officiating, the choice would have been easy - family.
I was blessed to have had a professional occupation (architecture) that, also, allowed me to participate in these activities. Yeah, when I worked at a public university during half of my FBS career, I had to use up virtually all of my vacation time, each year, to make it work, but, with bowl games and football trips to Hawaii, and other decent destinations, that was not a major hindrance.
So, evaluate your priorities, and examine how you can balance your officiating activities with personal and professional considerations, and do what is best for you.
Best of luck.
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General Discussion / Re: Officiating Other Sports
« Last post by riffraft on June 20, 2026, 04:38:49 PM »
I officiate baseball/softball until I moved to Phoenix area. Way too hot for all that equipment.

I officiated wrestling from 20 years until I met my wife and wrestling took up too much time compared to football.  Ultimately I would officiate wrestling over football all things being equal
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General Discussion / Re: Officiating Other Sports
« Last post by JasonTX on June 19, 2026, 09:41:37 PM »
I used to officiate basketball and baseball.  I'm in year 26 for football.  I did basketball for 20 years but quit doing that 6 years ago.  I've been doing baseball for 15 years, but didn't work the 2026 season.  I basically quit basketball because I needed a break after football.  I enjoyed the break so much I haven't gone back.  Baseball is the busiest time of the year for my business so it was getting hard to shuffle between the two.  Football is life.
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Texas Topics / Re: TASO Officiating Philosophies and NCAA Officiating Standards
« Last post by JasonTX on June 19, 2026, 09:00:02 PM »
Maybe we can come up with a list of the conflicts.  I'll go first.

NCAA:  When in question regarding whether the quarterback passed or fumbled, it will be ruled a fumble.

TASO:  When in question, the ball is passed and not fumbled during an attempted forward pass.
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General Discussion / Re: Officiating Other Sports
« Last post by Etref on June 19, 2026, 03:14:59 PM »
I started umpiring baseball in 2020 I think, the first year of Covid. I quit playing little league when I was in the 4th grade, so I didn't grow up playing, and it showed. I was terrible, LOL. I got about 4 games in, before they started cancelling games everywhere, and I took that as my sign from above that I was officiating the wrong sport.

In hindsight, having seen what baseball/softball umpires (and basketball) have to deal with from fans, parents, and coaches, I would never agree to ref those sports, ever.  (Although some have tried to talk me into umpiring softball. Might try that in the future, but never little league baseball or basketball.)

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Nothing more reliable than my good ol’ paper calendar. If it ain’t ‘synced,’ it’s only my fault. ;)
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Hi everyone
I've been trying to keep my Google Calendar and Outlook calendar in sync, and honestly it's becoming a bit of a headache. I spent a good part of the weekend trying different settings and workarounds. Everything looks fine at first, then a day or two later something goes wrong. Sometimes events disappear, sometimes I end up with duplicates, and it's hard to know which calendar is actually correct. A few weeks ago I even missed an important appointment because an event that was showing up originally had vanished from my personal calendar. Since then I've been double-checking everything, which kind of defeats the purpose of having synced calendars in the first place. I looked into CalDAV and a few other sync methods, but most of the guides I found seem either outdated or written for people who already know exactly what they're doing. I can usually figure this sort of thing out, but this one has been surprisingly frustrating. For those of you using both Google and Microsoft calendars, have you found a setup that's actually reliable over the long term? I'm not looking for a workaround that needs constant maintenance or breaks after every update.
I'd be interested to hear what has worked for you.
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General Discussion / Re: Officiating Other Sports
« Last post by dammitbobby on June 18, 2026, 11:41:24 PM »
I started umpiring baseball in 2020 I think, the first year of Covid. I quit playing little league when I was in the 4th grade, so I didn't grow up playing, and it showed. I was terrible, LOL. I got about 4 games in, before they started cancelling games everywhere, and I took that as my sign from above that I was officiating the wrong sport.

In hindsight, having seen what baseball/softball umpires (and basketball) have to deal with from fans, parents, and coaches, I would never agree to ref those sports, ever.  (Although some have tried to talk me into umpiring softball. Might try that in the future, but never little league baseball or basketball.)
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General Discussion / Officiating Other Sports
« Last post by ncwingman on June 18, 2026, 08:55:23 PM »
I know many of us don't just officiate football. What other sports do you officiate, and what's your favorite, do you suggest others get into those other sports?
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National Federation Discussion / Re: 3-4-7 play
« Last post by ncwingman on June 18, 2026, 08:33:01 AM »
This is essentially Case Play 3-4-7 C.

Since it's live ball by B followed by dead ball by A, enforce B's foul and give A the option to delay the clock, then enforce A's foul and give B the option to delay.

By rule, what sczeebra said. By pragmatism, what NVFOA_Ump said - at the very least, give team B a very leading question "The clock will start on the snap, right?"

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