Batting -CFO Quiz

[JasonTX]

Why is this not a safety???  The answer on the Quiz says C and the comment makes no sense.

1. (28%)
Fourth and 10 at the A-5.  B77 blocks the punt and the ball bounces into Team
A’s end zone.  A21 bats the ball from the end zone into the field of play and it
goes out of bounds at the A-6.
a.  Safety. No option.
b.  First and goal for Team B at the A-6.
c.  First and goal for Team B at the A-3.
d.  If the penalty is accepted fourth down must be repeated.
e.  None of the above.
REFERENCE:
9-4-1
COMMENTS:
The foul is in the end zone but enforcement is at the spot of the foul.  The
penalty includes loss of down since the kick did not cross the neutral zone.

[Legacy Zebra]

It could be a safety, but it doesn't have to be. They could tack it on to the end of the kick since it occurred during a scrimmage kick play in which the kick crossed the neutral zone. That would be half the distance from the A-6 where it went out, making it 1st and G from the A-3. A is incorrect not because of the safety, but because of the "no option" portion of that answer.

[JasonTX]

It could be a safety, but it doesn't have to be. They could tack it on to the end of the kick since it occurred during a scrimmage kick play in which the kick crossed the neutral zone. That would be half the distance from the A-6 where it went out, making it 1st and G from the A-3. A is incorrect not because of the safety, but because of the "no option" portion of that answer.

 

The comment is not correct.  It says the foul is in the end zone but enforcement is at the spot of the foul???  It should say enforcement is at the spot where the dead ball belongs to team B.

[NVFOA_Ump]

The comment is not correct.  It says the foul is in the end zone but enforcement is at the spot of the foul???  It should say enforcement is at the spot where the dead ball belongs to team B.

Agreed, the wording of the comment is incorrect.  If B declines the safety then the penalty would be enforced from the DB spot, 1/2 distance enforcement + LOD, 1st & 10 for B.

[dvasques]

Sorry about hijacking the post for another question on this same CFO quiz but I thought it didn't deserve a new topic. If I'm wrong, please open a new one for this...

Question 4 says the clock starts on the snap. It references 3-4-3 and says "The team ahead fouls inside of two minutes, so the clock starts on the snap. This is independent of whether the penalty is accepted or declined."

But 3-4-3 actually says two conflicting things.
"The referee shall order the game clock or play clock (...) This includes starting the game clock on the snap if the foul is by the team ahead in the score."

Then it goes on to say

"If the game clock is stopped only to complete a penalty for a foul by the team ahead in the score inside the last two minutes of a half, it will start on the snap, at the option of the offended team."

So this question 4, if the clock starts on the snap or on the signal depends on the decision by the offended team...

right?

[Hawkeye]

Yes, it is based on the decision of the offended team, which is assumed to be that they want the clock started on the snap.

The key to this answer is it points out that the decision to start the clock on the snap is not tied to the decision about the accepting/declining of the penalty, it is independent of that. This is different from the 10 second runoff decision which is tied the decision to accept/decline the penalty.

[dvasques]

But the way the question is made, both a and b could be right. Clock start on the snap or clock start on the ready. Depends on the choice be the offended team.
Just needed to clear that out if maybe it's supposed to always be on the snap in that situation without listening to the offended team.
I know in normal situation, they will chose to start on the snap. But that won't happen all the time...