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Offline VALJ

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25 or 40?
« on: June 06, 2019, 02:58:46 PM »
3/G at the B 5 yard line.  QB Lefty's pass is intercepted in B's end zone by Stretch, the CB.  CB runs around trying to get out of the end zone, but does not make it out, and is tackled there.  After the interception, but before Stretch is tackled, his teammate, Speedy, commits a holding foul at the B 10 yard line.

We all know that the basic spot is the B 20 for a play in the EZ when A was responsible for putting it there, so we enforce the foul from the B 10 (behind the basic spot), giving up B ball, 1/10 @ their own 5. We also know that the game clock will start on the snap, due to the COP.  Does the play clock go to 25 starting on the ready?

A strict reading of Article 1 seems to indicate a 40-second clock, since none of the conditions in 3-6-1-a-1 are met.  But are we really going to start a 40-second clock at the end of the play and make teams have to hustle players on and off the field, call the play, and snap it within that time frame?



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ART. 1 . . . Play clock and ready-for-play:

a. Play clock:

1. 25 seconds will be on the play clock and start on the ready-for-play signal:

(a) Prior to a try following a score;

(b) To start a period or overtime series;

(c) Following administration of an inadvertent whistle;

(d) Following a charged time-out;

(e) Following an official's time-out as in 3-5-7 or 3-5-10, except for 3-5-7b; and

(f) Following the stoppage of the play clock by the referee for any other reason.

2. 40 seconds will be on the play clock after a down other than specified in 3-6-1a(1), and start when the ball is declared dead by a game official.

b. The ball is ready for play:

1. When the ball has been placed for a down and the referee marks the ball ready for play after giving the ready-for-play signal as in 3-6-1a(1);

2. Starting immediately after the ball has been ruled dead by a game official after a down, the ball has been placed on the ground by the game official and the game official has stepped away to position as in 3-6-1a(2).

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Re: 25 or 40?
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2019, 04:40:24 PM »
3-5-7 covers a change of possession, so 25.
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Re: 25 or 40?
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2019, 04:45:38 PM »
You're thinking too  much.....25

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Re: 25 or 40?
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2019, 07:08:26 PM »
You're thinking too  much.....25

I am confidant to say that I have never been accused of this!

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Re: 25 or 40?
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2019, 07:25:01 AM »
Thanks, guys.  It just made sense to me that we'd go to 25 in that situation, but I couldn't find everything to piece it together.

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Re: 25 or 40?
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2019, 09:07:51 AM »
This may be oversimplifying a little, but if you are flowing from one scrimmage play to another with no administrative stops (other than moving the chains) it's 40. Anything else is 25. Like NCAA we could eventually go to 40 immediately after a TD (for try) or free kick (for first scrimmage play), but I don't see that as a huge issue. I would more likely see NFHS using 40 after a B helmet off or B injury to prevent them from gaining an advantage (intentional or not) near the end of a half. But that was an issue under 25 second. Adding the 40-second option now gives them a chance to offer a different solution.