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Offline Official_21

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Another play clock question...
« on: November 12, 2020, 08:42:34 AM »
Under rule 3-2-4-c, two of the thirteen situations that require the clock to be set to 25 secs are:

Team B is awarded a first down
After a kick down, other than a free kick

Aren't these the same situations at it's core? Could someone tell me the difference between the two, as it relates to the play clock.
They sound very similar situations to me.

And don't panic, I have been setting the play clock per the rules  ;D
Just looking to learn.
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Re: Another play clock question...
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2020, 08:52:07 AM »
Under rule 3-2-4-c, two of the thirteen situations that require the clock to be set to 25 secs are:

Team B is awarded a first down
After a kick down, other than a free kick

Aren't these the same situations at it's core? Could someone tell me the difference between the two, as it relates to the play clock.
They sound very similar situations to me.

Kick downs are different and need to be identified specifically, because BOTH teams typically have ‘special’ teams on the field for kick downs, and need the extra time to make those mass substitutions, and the crew needs that time to get the correct ball into the game. Without the reference to kick downs, if Team A regains possession of the ball and will next snap it, the play clock would be 40 and running, and would have greater likelihood of delay of game fouls. By including kick downs in the “25” category, there is no real threat of an undeserved delay foul.

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Re: Another play clock question...
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2020, 08:59:08 AM »
Kick downs are different and need to be identified specifically, because BOTH teams typically have ‘special’ teams on the field for kick downs, and need the extra time to make those mass substitutions, and the crew needs that time to get the correct ball into the game. Without the reference to kick downs, if Team A regains possession of the ball and will next snap it, the play clock would be 40 and running, and would have greater likelihood of delay of game fouls. By including kick downs in the “25” category, there is no real threat of an undeserved delay foul.
As always, thanks for the insightful reply  tiphat:

Like I always say, always looking to learn, not just how to be a good clock operator, but also why the rules are written the way they are.

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Re: Another play clock question...
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2020, 08:57:18 AM »
Just know your definitions.

2-7-1 Down:
A down is a unit of the game that starts after the ball is RFP with..a legal free kick(free kick down)

So every free kick is a kick down, but not every kick down is a free kick down.

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Re: Another play clock question...
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2020, 10:17:58 PM »
Under rule 3-2-4-c, two of the thirteen situations that require the clock to be set to 25 secs are:

Team B is awarded a first down
After a kick down, other than a free kick

Aren't these the same situations at it's core? Could someone tell me the difference between the two, as it relates to the play clock.
They sound very similar situations to me.

And don't panic, I have been setting the play clock per the rules  ;D
Just looking to learn.


A situation of your first example that wouldn't be a kick down would be a simple interception or fumble recovery.
A situation of your second example where Team B is not awarded a first down would be if Team A attempts a FG on 3rd down, it's blocked, and recovered behind the NZ by Team A.  Clock stops.  PC at 25.  Or, if on a punt play, we somehow replay 4th down through penalty.