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Offline bctgp

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Coach Interference on Play - most unsual play
« on: August 04, 2025, 12:40:52 AM »
Very Unusual High School Play that we probably will see at most once in our officiating career.  What do you have?

Too large to post here but I shared a link to it:  https://1drv.ms/v/c/19a8ce2d68f4196d/EW0Z9GgtzqgggBkkBwAAAAABRMDXQX5nzaRuiVwtfjqtwg?e=Jl1f2W

Good play to be prepared for in case it happens in our games.

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Re: Coach Interference on Play - most unsual play
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2025, 08:22:26 AM »
1. False start, all 11 players never set for one second.

2. The ball is dead when a loose ball touches something other than a player, an official, or the equipment of a player or official.

3. A coach interfering with a live ball falls under the unfair acts article. Assess whatever you think is equitable. In my opinion, that ball was moving pretty fast and was clearly going out of bounds and nobody was going to recover it. My penalty would be to place the ball where I think the ball would have gone out. It still counts as that coach’s first UNS, but he obviously wasn’t trying to interfere with a recovery and I don’t think there’s anything here that merits doing anything more than “making it right”.

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Re: Coach Interference on Play - most unsual play
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2025, 08:35:41 AM »
Also if the covering official ruled forward progress to have been stopped, then everything after that is dead-ball stuff. I'd still penalize the coach for a UNS for just being stupid so he would not do that again. Also, he probably was in the restricted area while the ball was live, so do remember to give the SLW.

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Re: Coach Interference on Play - most unsual play
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2025, 08:54:46 AM »
I may be way too generous, but I think I'd do this:

1. Rule forward progress was stopped
2. Let coach know that if I hadn't ruled that, he would have cost his team 15 yards for a UNS.
3. Give him a sideline warning to stay out of the paint
4. Put the you-owe-me-one in the bank for future use during the game.

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Re: Coach Interference on Play - most unsual play
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2025, 10:04:04 AM »
1. False start, all 11 players never set for one second.

2. The ball is dead when a loose ball touches something other than a player, an official, or the equipment of a player or official.

3. A coach interfering with a live ball falls under the unfair acts article. Assess whatever you think is equitable. In my opinion, that ball was moving pretty fast and was clearly going out of bounds and nobody was going to recover it. My penalty would be to place the ball where I think the ball would have gone out. It still counts as that coach’s first UNS, but he obviously wasn’t trying to interfere with a recovery and I don’t think there’s anything here that merits doing anything more than “making it right”.

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Re: Coach Interference on Play - most unsual play
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2025, 03:34:27 PM »
1. False start, all 11 players never set for one second.

Probably, but we don't really know that. They could have all set for a second before the we see the action in this video. If not, yeah, illegal shift that converts to a false start. If they did, then it is a live-ball illegal shift, and we have to let the down play out.
Personally, I would charge the coach with a UNS for exhibiting just general unsportsmanlike conduct. If we need to get specific, we can hit him with being on the field of play without permission form the referee. Being in the restricted area during a live ball or in the immediate continuing action. Probably others. Nah, this isn't a warning or a "talk to." Charge him with something, and rack it up toward ejection.

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Re: Coach Interference on Play - most unsual play
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2025, 10:24:42 PM »
There's no way anybody's ruling FWP with one ankle grabbed on a QB who can still throw the ball.  He's still very much in control of his own body.  If he throws that down field, 0% of us would rule FWP.

UNS the coach and go 15 from the previous spot.  Easy breezy.  Punish stupidity when possible.

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Re: Coach Interference on Play - most unsual play
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2025, 07:37:08 PM »
UNS the coach and go 15 from the previous spot. 
Why previous spot?

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Re: Coach Interference on Play - most unsual play
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2025, 08:01:49 PM »
Why previous spot?

Because it was the Team B coach. Whether you rule progress or dead-ball on the touching by a non-player, the Basic Spot is the Previous spot, and Team B fouls behind the BS are penalized from the BS.