Famous Idaho Potato Bowl - Ending

[LittleWhistle]

Any thoughts about the last few plays in the Potato Bowl.  Very strange series of events - starting with a bad ruling on the field of a 4th down fumble short of the goal line.  The player that "fumbled" actually recovered in the EZ - and the SJ ruled TD first - then the Ref announced ruling on the field was 4th down fumble so ball returns to spot of the fumble (which was a first down for Team A) - of course it goes to replay and comes back as "confirmed" - then on field discussion - R goes all the way back to head set and comes back and announces "the boy" was down before he fumbled - 1st down Team A on 1/2 yard line.  First play from scrimmage - clearly a flinch by RT not called - would have been 10 sec run off and 1/G from 5.5 instead of 1/2 yard line.  Team A got stuffed on 1st down, called their final TO and then scored on 2nd down.

I think the on field guys really kicked this by not getting togehter and deciding what they truly had on the field before going to replay booth.  Not to mention that the player was basically laying on the ground with multiple body parts down before ball came loose clearly short of the GL.  After the long review and discussion, I think all the officials lost their concentration and therefore missed a pretty obvious FST that would have made a big difference.  We all need to remember to let the last play go whether we were right or wrong and make sure we get the next play right!

[chymechowder]

Didn't see the game. but there wouldnt necessarily have been a 10 second run off. Team A could've avoided the runoff by using their timeout.

[TXMike]

It was ugly.  I don't think this has the play after IR finally finished but it has the rest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXzxzZod4Io

[ref6983]

It was ugly.  I don't think this has the play after IR finally finished but it has the rest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXzxzZod4Io

It went something like this:

1. Initial onfield ruling - touchdown
2. Ruling after discussion - no touchdown - 4th down fumble recovered by different player. Ball at 1/2 yd line. (how they came up with this stretches the imagination).
3. Replay: "Something is confirmed"
4. Onfield ruling after another discussion:: Touchdown - fumble actually recovered by fumbling player
5. Replay: No touchdown ball at 6" line

Ruling should have been ball at about the 1 yd line which is the foremost point of the ball when knee and shin are down.

All of this took 6+ minutes to work through. And I would suggest "player" is a better term to use than "boy".

[RickKY]

Ultimately they got the right call, but it was ugly and took too long to get there.  The questions I have about replay process is this. 

Call A was made.
Call A was reviewed and confirmed.
Call then changed to B.
Call B reviewed
TD.

Can you change the ruling to something other than the video review determines to be correct?

[TexLJ]

As an aside, I love the commentator insisting that "the ground can't cause a fumble."

 

[Diablo]

I think the on field guys really kicked this by not getting togehter and deciding what they truly had on the field before going to replay booth.  After the long review and discussion, I think all the officials lost their concentration and therefore missed a pretty obvious FST that would have made a big difference.  We all need to remember to let the last play go whether we were right or wrong and make sure we get the next play right!

Great advice.  Easier said than done.

BTW  Does B1 bitch slap A19 at the goalline in front of the L at the 0:18 mark?  If called, it wouldn't have had a big effect on the final outcome of the down.  Probably added to the confusion. 

[Etref]

Great advice.  Easier said than done.

BTW  Does B1 bitch slap A19 at the goalline in front of the L at the 0:18 mark?  If called, it wouldn't have had a big effect on the final outcome of the down.  Probably added to the confusion. 

I think you are correct about the bitch slap.

[Rulesman]

It was more than a slap by #97 for Marshall at the end of the Beef O'Brady Bowl last night. A right uppercut would be a better description. What a garbage game and an embarassment to college football... painful to watch and proof there are too many bowls for undeserving teams. Neither could line up in a legal formation, or keep from jumping offside. False starts were a dime a dozen and then they want to fight at the end. Reminded me of week 1 in Junior High.

[Diablo]

I think you are correct about the bitch slap.

It illustrates the importance to always vigilantly watch a pair of opposing players until they separate.  As with many of these encounters, this one occurs in the wide open field away from the dead ball.  "Dead ball" officiating does not always mean officiate the dead ball.

[Etref]

So true, never any need to have 14 eyes watching the ball.

[chymechowder]

So true, never any need to have 14 eyes watching the ball.

exception:

[Etref]

 

[Rulesman]

exception:

There's a ball in this picture?

[JasonTX]

For a moment I thought she had two of them concealed.  I had to look closer to realize that was not a football.

[mccormicw]

9-2-2-a

[Rulesman]

For a moment I thought she had two of them concealed.  I had to look closer to realize that was not a football.

I would guess most of us know the difference between THOSE and a football. 

[TXMike]

The boy IS from N Texas, i.e Southern Oklahoma..this is about all he is used to seeing

[JasonTX]

The boy IS from N Texas, i.e Southern Oklahoma..this is about all he is used to seeing

Dude, quit posting pictures of your sister on here. 

[mccormicw]

Dude, quit posting pictures of your sister on here.

 

[James]

Going back to the clip, I know how stressed I feel when announcing a correction - I can only imagine how stressed he was announcing the 4th(?) correction on the same play - and it REALLY showed. He looked like he wanted to crawl into a hole.

[bama_stripes]

I'd be interested in knowing who finally figured out that the "fumbler" was the player who "recovered" in the EZ.  Was it a crew member, or was the WH tipped off by the RO?