Ball spotting - R and U

[TXMike]

I understand the CCA mechanics this year will be for the R to be even more involved in ball spotting than before.  Also understand they are going to call for U to stay over the ball ANYTIME Team A subs, even if they sub as soon as the previous play ends.

The "logic" is that by having the R more involved in ball spotting, the ball can get made ready for play a bit faster than if we wait for the U to get it spotted.  The U works outside to the sidelines if need be, relays the ball to the R, R puts it down and then goes back to his position. 

 But.....if the U then has to hustle in to get on the ball because A has subbed after the play, what have we gained?  ?   ?  He might just as well hold on to the ball while coming in  (thus preventing any snap) while A subs and B reacts.

[Andrew McCarthy]

It seems like some of these mechanics changes are being completely overthought.

If they want to have the R involved for whatever reason, fine- he can relay it to the U in certain situations.

As far as the U staying over the ball on any sub, in the past I've had my U give me a quick look before backing off. It doesn't much change what he's doing. I only keep him there if A looks like they can quickly snap the ball. It prevents him having to come back on the ball when he could've easily stayed on it in the first place.

[ref6983]

I understand the CCA mechanics this year will be for the R to be even more involved in ball spotting than before.  Also understand they are going to call for U to stay over the ball ANYTIME Team A subs, even if they sub as soon as the previous play ends.

The "logic" is that by having the R more involved in ball spotting, the ball can get made ready for play a bit faster than if we wait for the U to get it spotted.  The U works outside to the sidelines if need be, relays the ball to the R, R puts it down and then goes back to his position. 

 But.....if the U then has to hustle in to get on the ball because A has subbed after the play, what have we gained?  ?   ?  He might just as well hold on to the ball while coming in  (thus preventing any snap) while A subs and B reacts.

This is not true.

[TXMike]

Which part?

[TxSkyBolt]

Mike,

I believe it's just the opposite and the R will not be spotting the ball. I suspect you know of at least one Div 1 Conference that will do otherwise

[TXMike]

Precisely why I asked, to see if it was that unique.  Perhaps it is.  Watched them again today and that is the way they are doing it.

[ref6983]

Which part?

The very first sentence. The Referee should rarely spot the ball in a no huddle offense.

As for the umpire over the ball, I don't believe anything has changed. B gets the opportunity to match up if A subs. Normally, this requires the umpire to be over the ball until B has shown no intent to sub or they have completed the sub in a reasonable amount of time. The referee is supposed to make that determination.

[Rulesman]

Precisely why I asked, to see if it was that unique.  Perhaps it is.  Watched them again today and that is the way they are doing it.

So much for everyone doing it the same way. 

[TXMike]

The very first sentence. The Referee should rarely spot the ball in a no huddle offense.

As for the umpire over the ball, I don't believe anything has changed. B gets the opportunity to match up if A subs. Normally, this requires the umpire to be over the ball until B has shown no intent to sub or they have completed the sub in a reasonable amount of time. The referee is supposed to make that determination.

  Have you seen a CUSA game recently?

[Rulesman]

  Have you seen a CUSA game recently?

They play football in CUSA? 

[ref6983]

  Have you seen a CUSA game recently?

Unfortunately, it is certainly possible that the way it is supposed to be done may very well different than what is actually done by a specific conference.