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Offline TXMike

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Interesting Onside KO
« on: September 14, 2019, 05:41:59 PM »
IR picked up an early block by Team A to overturn the Team A recovery.

https://youtu.be/bghSSbA6MJg
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Offline TxBJ

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Re: Interesting Onside KO
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2019, 06:08:49 PM »
Not really a block, is it? He appeared to be running toward the ball and not trying to block anyone.
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Offline ElvisLives

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Re: Interesting Onside KO
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2019, 06:13:45 PM »
I hope this play shows up on the next CFO video, to get the reaction from the bosses.  Not exactly the classic blocking to prevent somebody from recovering the ball, which is the purpose of the rule.
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Re: Interesting Onside KO
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2019, 07:45:23 PM »
While maybe not textbook, he leads with his shoulder and makes contact. The ball was close by when it occurred. ^flag
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Re: Interesting Onside KO
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2019, 08:34:14 PM »
R player was not going for the ball and looked like he was going to block 5.  The ball was past R.  I would treat it like a hold away from the ball.  No flag for me. However, I am always on the goal line so what do I know.
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Offline Magician

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Re: Interesting Onside KO
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2019, 01:51:21 AM »
I feel that was sufficient enough to be considered a block. Is it enough to be a big enough error to be changed on replay. That depends on how technical you want replay to be. The kicking team is not allowed to initiate a block before they are legally allowed to touch the ball. He's close enough to the action of the ball I don't think you ignore it. I think the only question is whether you think his action is actually a block.
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Offline Kalle

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Re: Interesting Onside KO
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2019, 04:20:47 AM »
Considering this is an onside kick I would like the action to be flagged, but not sure if it is big enough for IR to step in, as you can reasonably argue that it is not a block and it has no bearing on the play as such.
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Re: Interesting Onside KO
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2019, 07:44:41 AM »
All legitimate comments, which is precisely why we need to get direction from the bosses.
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Offline bossman72

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Re: Interesting Onside KO
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2019, 12:38:23 AM »
Receiving team player initiated the block and also he was not going for the ball.  He was trying to block for his own teammate.  I don't have a foul here, IMO.
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Offline TxBJ

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Re: Interesting Onside KO
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2019, 03:04:20 PM »
Quote from: bossman72 on September 16, 2019, 12:38:23 AM
Receiving team player initiated the block and also he was not going for the ball.  He was trying to block for his own teammate.  I don't have a foul here, IMO.
Agree.
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Re: Interesting Onside KO
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2019, 12:21:16 PM »
You want replay? This type of detail is going to be scrutinized.
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Re: Interesting Onside KO
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2019, 01:40:46 PM »
I don't disagree with any of the previous comments but I think that at some level, the kicking team players should have the same responsibility a receiver has for avoiding contact on a pass play (I do understand the rules are written differently but thinking intent).  If you watch #5 for the kicking team, he is not attempting to recover the ball and makes a bee line straight for an opposing player.  IMO, he also blocks which is a violation regardless of the receiving teams actions. 
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