Author Topic: Don't forget the POE's  (Read 7294 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Ralph Damren

  • *
  • Posts: 5106
  • FAN REACTION: +875/-28
  • SEE IT-THINK IT-CALL IT
Don't forget the POE's
« on: August 14, 2024, 01:03:44 PM »
While the sole new rule didn't bring much excitement, we should remind the coaches of the new Points of Emphasis. Our state association has supplied them to all of our coaches and our plan is to remind them of these during their first game :

"Coach, do you have a 'stay back' coach to remind players on the sidelines to stay there if a fight breaks out ?"

"Coach, remember to have a coach stand sentry at each end of the post-game handshake line ?"

"Coach, regardless of what you see at the NCAA or NFL level, knee pads covered by pants are still required in high school. It's a safety issue. "

Hopefully this will get everyone on the same page. Games seem to run better when we all stay there.

THOUGHTS, ANYONE  ???

 yEs: yEs: yEs: yEs: yEs: (5-man crew)
« Last Edit: August 14, 2024, 01:08:58 PM by Ralph Damren »

Offline NVFOA_Ump

  • *
  • Posts: 4200
  • FAN REACTION: +107/-351
  • High School (MA & RI)
    • Massachusetts Independent Football Officials Association
Re: Don't forget the POE's
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2024, 01:10:27 PM »
I Agree 100%.  The stay back issue is more for us than for the 22 players on the field.  The 3 most serious official injuries that I've seen in my game were all sideline collisions with players/coaches "in the way".   The issue with knee coverage cannot be overstated IMHO.  We had several serious staph infections traced back to the players wearing "bike shorts" that got most of their skin removed from their knees on turf fields.  It's a very simple thing yet important.  Also, the knee injuries are getting worse as the number of high schools with turf fields approaches 100%.
It's easy to get the players, getting 'em to play together, that's the hard part. - Casey Stengel

Offline Derek Teigen

  • *
  • Posts: 478
  • FAN REACTION: +19/-1
  • Committed to the game; safety and sportsmanship
Re: Don't forget the POE's
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2024, 02:03:06 PM »
Ralph this is a very good reminder thank you!  I usually try and use my sideline warning very early in the game if my instructions were not being respected.  Good stuff.

Offline Ralph Damren

  • *
  • Posts: 5106
  • FAN REACTION: +875/-28
  • SEE IT-THINK IT-CALL IT
Re: Don't forget the POE's
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2024, 07:55:04 AM »
Guys, while I totally agree with giving us enough room to operate on the sidelines, this POE is aimed at keeping bench players on the bench if a fight breaks out.

Offline lawdog

  • *
  • Posts: 270
  • FAN REACTION: +10/-35
Re: Don't forget the POE's
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2024, 08:13:39 AM »
Guys, while I totally agree with giving us enough room to operate on the sidelines, this POE is aimed at keeping bench players on the bench if a fight breaks out.

Because bench clearing brawls happen all the time while players/coaches etc crowding the field never does.  Leave it to NFHS to deal with the meaningful stuff....

What year will we have the POE of how to deal with the Unicorn on the field after spearing a mermaid and running around with her impaled on the horn???

Offline Etref

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 2415
  • FAN REACTION: +88/-29
  • " I don't make the rules coach!"
Re: Don't forget the POE's
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2024, 10:43:12 AM »
Because bench clearing brawls happen all the time while players/coaches etc crowding the field never does.  Leave it to NFHS to deal with the meaningful stuff....

What year will we have the POE of how to deal with the Unicorn on the field after spearing a mermaid and running around with her impaled on the horn???


😂

Best post of the year!
" I don't make the rules coach!"

Offline bossman72

  • *
  • Posts: 2348
  • FAN REACTION: +311/-29
Re: Don't forget the POE's
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2024, 10:54:02 PM »
Because bench clearing brawls happen all the time while players/coaches etc crowding the field never does.  Leave it to NFHS to deal with the meaningful stuff....

What year will we have the POE of how to deal with the Unicorn on the field after spearing a mermaid and running around with her impaled on the horn???

It's like the one year where they had proposals on the table to fix the ILF rule to make it a foul for 5 in the backfield vs 6 on the line, and instead there was a change dealing with what happens when the runner's prosthetic leg comes off.  LOL!

Offline Fatso

  • *
  • Posts: 341
  • FAN REACTION: +11/-100
  • Hey ref, call it both ways.......
Re: Don't forget the POE's
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2024, 07:09:47 AM »
It's like the one year where they had proposals on the table to fix the ILF rule to make it a foul for 5 in the backfield vs 6 on the line, and instead there was a change dealing with what happens when the runner's prosthetic leg comes off.  LOL!



Offline Ia-Ref

  • *
  • Posts: 51
  • FAN REACTION: +4/-4
Re: Don't forget the POE's
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2024, 04:40:18 PM »
While on the POE topic.
I would like to see the POE similar to one in 2008 with the topic of false starts, motion and shifts.
These topics have not been discussed for years and no rules have changed.
It would be a great reminder and give definition to what is and is not legal.
Some aspects of the game have changed.
Take for example a clap or fake clap maybe with the signal caller's movement. Or a high knee raising to start a player in motion.  Legal or not?
"Because you can referee wrong, make a mistake, but what you can not do is create your own sense of justice and, even worse, invent a very personal application of the rules."   Dutch legend (soccer coach) Johan Cruyff

Offline AlUpstateNY

  • *
  • Posts: 4843
  • FAN REACTION: +344/-1000
Re: Don't forget the POE's
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2024, 06:12:59 PM »
"Beauty is still  in the eye of the beholder", and is usually based on that beholder's "Common Sense".  Gratuitous "silly" efforts, are not worthy of reward.

Offline lawdog

  • *
  • Posts: 270
  • FAN REACTION: +10/-35
Re: Don't forget the POE's
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2024, 08:23:08 AM »
"Beauty is still  in the eye of the beholder", and is usually based on that beholder's "Common Sense".  Gratuitous "silly" efforts, are not worthy of reward.

As usual, no one knows what the heck Al is talking about...

Offline NVFOA_Ump

  • *
  • Posts: 4200
  • FAN REACTION: +107/-351
  • High School (MA & RI)
    • Massachusetts Independent Football Officials Association
Re: Don't forget the POE's
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2024, 11:02:29 AM »
As usual, no one knows what the heck Al is talking about...


Al, as they say, marches to the beat of a different drummer!   ???
It's easy to get the players, getting 'em to play together, that's the hard part. - Casey Stengel