What will the powers that be do?

[ElvisLives]

I put this on the NCAA forum, too, not only for the actual ruling for the down, but in case the ruling might not be handled the same by all powers that be. What happens after the game? What would you do on the field? What would the powers that be do? Yeah, I’m stirring the pot.
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2/10, B-30, 0:05 (4), A=10, B=19.

A11 throws a legal forward pass toward A88 in B’s end zone. Almost immediately after the snap, B44 intentionally removes his helmet to begin celebrating what he believes will be a team victory. The Field Judge drops a foul marker for B44’s UNS action. A88 successfully completes the catch in the end zone. Time in the period expired during the down. The UNS by B44 was his second UNS of the game.

Ruling:

[ilyazhito]

B44 is ejected because the UNS is his 2nd of the game. The game will end, because the penalty on B is for a non-player foul. The penalty could be carried to the try or kickoff, but there will be no try, since the score differential is too great for a try to impact the outcome of the game. The referee will report the UNS to the assigner/league/state association for them to determine supplemental discipline for the ejected player.

[ElvisLives]

B44 is ejected because the UNS is his 2nd of the game. The game will end, because the penalty on B is for a non-player foul. The penalty could be carried to the try or kickoff, but there will be no try, since the score differential is too great for a try to impact the outcome of the game. The referee will report the UNS to the assigner/league/state association for them to determine supplemental discipline for the ejected player.

This being the Texas forum, remember, in UIL football players are never “ejected.” They are disqualified. But, yes, he is most certainly disqualified. Not sure what “…the penalty on B is for a non-player foul” means. 5 and 10 yard penalties for B fouls are declined by rule; but any 15-yard penalty for a foul by B would be enforced on the try, or at the succeeding kickoff, if they are to net played. But, buy rule, when the possible point(s) on the try following a TD scored when time in regulation play expires could not change the outcome of the game, the try is NOT played, and the game is over. Note that when a try is to be played after time in a period expires, the period is extended only for the try. If there is no subsequent period in which to play another down, the game is over. The DQ is to be reported to the UIL with an incident report, for the UIL to review to determine the player’s disposition with respect any subsequent game.
Now, in this case, since the player committed a foul that did not involve contact or direct UNS action toward an opponent, my experienced guess is that the UIL will not take any action on this player, and he will be free to play in their next game. That is their history. I hope I am wrong.

[ilyazhito]

Understood. My answer was based on straight NCAA rules, that do call for an ejection. Since B44 is most likely a minor, he will be disqualified. The distinction is that disqualification usually only affects the current game, but ejection can cause a player to be suspended for a subsequent game or games.

[ElvisLives]

Understood. My answer was based on straight NCAA rules, that do call for an ejection. Since B44 is most likely a minor, he will be disqualified. The distinction is that disqualification usually only affects the current game, but ejection can cause a player to be suspended for a subsequent game or games.

No, the distinction between “disqualification” and “ejection,” for NCAA is that a disqualified player may remain in the team area for the duration of the disqualification (current game, and subsequent game, as applicable). An ejected player must leave the playing enclosure under escort of team personnel, and remain under team supervision during the duration of the ejection. In both cases, the ineligibility to participate in the game (current game and subsequent game, as applicable) is the same. For NCAA, the only foul that qualifies for ‘disqualification’ is Targeting.
That has nothing to do with any greater penalty that might be imposed, or vacation of the disqualification/ejection for the first half of the next game that might be effected, by the governing body of that player’s team.

For UIL, even players penalized for flagrant fouls are only ‘disqualified,’ meaning that they may remain in the team area during the duration of the disqualification. Effectively, ‘ejection’ for players does not exist, under any circumstance. However, coaches that commit qualifying fouls are ejected (unless they are the sole sideline coach; then they are not ejected).

[Reffan13]

No, the distinction between “disqualification” and “ejection,” for NCAA is that a disqualified player may remain in the team area for the duration of the disqualification (current game, and subsequent game, as applicable). An ejected player must leave the playing enclosure under escort of team personnel, and remain under team supervision during the duration of the ejection. In both cases, the ineligibility to participate in the game (current game and subsequent game, as applicable) is the same. For NCAA, the only foul that qualifies for ‘disqualification’ is Targeting.
That has nothing to do with any greater penalty that might be imposed, or vacation of the disqualification/ejection for the first half of the next game that might be effected, by the governing body of that player’s team.

For UIL, even players penalized for flagrant fouls are only ‘disqualified,’ meaning that they may remain in the team area during the duration of the disqualification. Effectively, ‘ejection’ for players does not exist, under any circumstance. However, coaches that commit qualifying fouls are ejected (unless they are the sole sideline coach; then they are not ejected).

What is the NCAA rule on if a player who has been DQ'd/ejected comes back and plays in that same game or if he is banned from 1st half of next game plays in that 1st half?

[ElvisLives]

What is the NCAA rule on if a player who has been DQ'd/ejected comes back and plays in that same game or if he is banned from 1st half of next game plays in that 1st half?

No specific action is provided in the rules. 9–2-3-c would allow the R to impose a penalty all the way up to forfeiting the game. Me, personally, I’d impose a UNS on the HC for every period that he played undetected, then make sure both, the player and the HC, if warranted, are escorted out of the playing enclosure, and a game administrator keeps an eye on them to make sure they don’t re-enter the playing enclosure. Then a very detailed report to my coordinator. Hopefully, this would be a case of a player changing his number, so no one on the crew recognized the deceit.
You may wonder how the crew would know if a player was supposed to sit out the first half of a game. The conferences are obligated to share that info with the officiating coordinators, who then advise the Referee for that game.