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Offline ThomasG

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Flopping
« on: May 29, 2013, 02:28:47 PM »
There has been a lot of discussion in other sports about flopping and rules to address it.  In my experience, the greatest potential for flopping exists when the kicker pretends he's been roughed or exagerates the impact of very minimal contact. 
If such a "flop" (for want of a better noun) is observed, can (or more importantly, should) this be addressed using current NFHS rules, philosophies, goals, objectives, etc.?

The only near qualifying rule that could be applied is 9-5-1c since 9-8-1b seems to only apply to USC by nonplayers. 

Thoughts?
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Offline TampaSteve

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Re: Flopping
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2013, 03:11:29 PM »
In the NHL it's called 'imbelishment'. 
Unfortunately, we dont have that.
Anyway, if someone takes a dive, eh whatever. 
Someone rolling round & round & carrying on (looking for a flag) is something else.
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Re: Flopping
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2013, 04:32:47 PM »
If the kicker wants to flop. I'm OK playing 10 on 11. It's his team he is hurting when he is laying on the ground.
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Re: Flopping
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2013, 05:30:51 PM »
Much ado about nothing.  Don't call it if isn't a foul solves the whole problem .

NFL kickers and punters were notorious for their version of it 20+ years ago but it seems to have settled some.
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Offline bossman72

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Re: Flopping
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2013, 09:23:53 PM »
It's a foul in the NCAA rule book, but it is called less than assisting the runner.
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Offline AlUpstateNY

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Re: Flopping
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2013, 01:32:00 PM »
If it's really obvious, and requires serious effort, I'll give him a bried "hand" before moving to participate in the play.
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Offline James

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Re: Flopping
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2013, 12:26:11 AM »
We had one (8?) years ago - NCAA rules... I twas so obvious, and the kicker turned right away looking at the R, that the R said afterwards, he would usually not have thrown anything, but the kicker was so obviously trying to fake a foul for the betterment of their team that he game the kicker an USC.
I have to admit is was quite comical to see the kicker jump up to celebrate the flag, and see his body posture when he understood it was not against the defense.
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Offline Ralph Damren

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Re: Flopping
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2013, 12:03:35 PM »
I can't recall of this ever being a topic of discussion at NFHS. I'm a big U-Maine ice hockey fan, and I've often seen emblishment called against Pere and tripping called against Jean-Claude (the opponent) and have been puzzled ??? how you could have both  ??? ? I with all of you that feel that a  ^no no call means that it didn't work.
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