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Offline Wingmanbp

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Re: Utah State vs San Jose State
« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2013, 10:48:20 AM »
I have the abbreviation for this new animal. Instead of IW we will call it IFU
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I say just make sure its right before you run a play. There are 5-7 of us on the field. Somebody should figure it out. When our crew has a penalty we tell our referee the foul. penalty and enforcement spot and if there is a discrepancy then we work that out then. That solves most errors. However that doesn't mean that it wont ever happen. we all have bad games.

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Re: Utah State vs San Jose State
« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2013, 12:17:34 PM »
I still fail to see the real benefit of this.
The benefit is an attempt to neutralize errors made by officials.  We no longer ignore inadvertent whistles and TD signals before the ball, in player possession, penetrates the goal line.


When was the last time this kind of situation happened?
I can imagine, it's hard to say.
We don't know how many errors come to light versus remain unknown except to the crew.


For those of you who start the draft process, please include some kind of provision for the team in possession to be able to decline the process, similar to IW (say the 1st down play would have been a 30 yard gain - would you still have done a do-over?).
Good point. 
To take it one step further, perhaps the opponent of the team that initially benefitted from the error should have the option to take the result of the play or a "corrected do over".

Offline Magician

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Re: Utah State vs San Jose State
« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2013, 01:40:31 PM »
I still fail to see the real benefit of this. When was the last time this kind of situation happened?

For those of you who start the draft process, please include some kind of provision for the team in possession to be able to decline the process, similar to IW (say the 1st down play would have been a 30 yard gain - would you still have done a do-over?).


That's why I think it would be hard to come up with a rule for this situation.  If they had gained 10-15 yards I doubt they would have done the same thing.  The fact the run only gained a yard made it a little easier.  The correct thing to do would have been to stick with the 1-yard run and move on.  Part of me is OK with how they handled it.  They were damned if they do and damned if they don't.  You can argue they made 2 mistakes instead of 1 which is absolutely true, but in the end did they do what was fair?  Sometimes leaders do the wrong things to get the right results.  Does that apply here?

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Re: Utah State vs San Jose State
« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2013, 01:50:36 PM »
Maybe we could apply Dr Redding's "50 drunks in a bar" standard to determine what is right?  ;-)

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Re: Utah State vs San Jose State
« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2013, 02:37:18 PM »
Hey Mike, elaborate on that one.

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Re: Utah State vs San Jose State
« Reply #30 on: October 03, 2013, 02:53:35 PM »
Back wen there was a lot of discussion about what UNS conduct was he said he hoped that whatever was flagged as UNS conduct would be something those 50 guys would say is UNS conduct.  So maybe if we take some after the fact correction that those 50 guys would agree is fair then maybe  that would be okay

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Re: Utah State vs San Jose State
« Reply #31 on: October 15, 2013, 12:18:50 PM »
Sometimes silence speaks volumes!!! This week's CFO video review featured a few plays from this game and NO discussion of this do over situation. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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Re: Utah State vs San Jose State
« Reply #32 on: October 15, 2013, 02:37:32 PM »
Did anyone else notice the chain crew was wearing knickers and ref socks? I think we all have a place we can send our old clothes...