Shirts

[TxSkyBolt]

Then you'll forever be wrong

[TXMike]

If it is good enough for the AF it is good enough for me

[Welpe]

Placket not placard

Same church, different pew. 

[Joe Stack]

I don't like placards either...in HS games, there are too many vacancies on crews and that creates a headache that isn't needed.

How is this a headache? You simply don't wear that shirt for that game. Always have a "clean" shirt (in more ways than one!).

[TexDoc]

Somehow, I get the feeling that someone thinks if we look more like the college guys we will be more credible.  Maybe that perception is real, but I would sure like to think not.  Just like wearing placards (yes Brad, placards    ) was supposed to make us more credible or better officials or look better, or whatever.  I think that test is proof that a piece of fabric doesn't make an official any better.  I'm not against placards, but my crew doesn't wear them.  I would go along with them if the consensus was to wear them.  I just don't think they make you any better, so why.

As for the new shirts, why?  Really, why?  Is this a perception thing again, or just changing times, what?  I personally see no reason to change, but if that's what the majority wants, okay.  But, I just bought I new sublimated shirt this year and it should last me at least 3 or 4 seasons.  I'll roll with the changes, I just don't understand the need to change.  If the new shirts are adopted, I would certainly think it should be implemented at least two to three years down the road so we don't all have to buy new shirts immediately.  Let us wear out the present ones first. 

[Wingmanbp]

Where are yall buying these shirts that last 3-4 years. I am lucky to get two

[dcbarisax1]

Man, y'all are rough on shirts.  I've never 'had' to buy a new shirt for a season.  I've got some from 7-8 years ago that, if we were still in skinny stripes, I'd be able to wear.

[TexDoc]

I don't know how wearing a shirt for 15 to 20 games a season and subsequently getting washed only that many times a year can wear it out.  Mine usually last 3 to 4 years just fine.  They are not made of a material that quickly degrades with each washing, so they certainly should last that long.

[TXMike]

Where are yall buying these shirts that last 3-4 years. I am lucky to get two

  You need to get a new water softener, clothes washer, or laundry service

[TxSkyBolt]

Where are yall buying these shirts that last 3-4 years. I am lucky to get two

Remember, Doc's a Referee, so doesn't sweat much.

[Welpe]

You all may be comparing different types.of materials. The old double knit polyester shirts will last forever but are not so comfortable.

The performance fabric shirts in my opinion are more comfortable but don't seem to hold up as well. Both Honig's shirts I have faded badly after two seasons (though with a lot of subvarsity in the afternoon sun had a lot to do with it).

The Ump Attire shirts I have just went through their second season with no discernible fading. The fabric though is pilling more than a little where it tucks in.

[Wingmanbp]

I don't know how wearing a shirt for 15 to 20 games a season and subsequently getting washed only that many times a year can wear it out.  Mine usually last 3 to 4 years just fine.  They are not made of a material that quickly degrades with each washing, so they certainly should last that long.

My subvarsity shirt gets used on average 30times a season. By the next season it has faded somewhat and so I pass down my varsity shirt and buy a new one for Varsity. Of course this next year I will not be able to do that because I bought the new shirts with the patches built in including an H

[Etref]

My subvarsity shirt gets used on average 30times a season. By the next season it has faded somewhat and so I pass down my varsity shirt and buy a new one for Varsity. Of course this next year I will not be able to do that because I bought the new shirts with the patches built in including an H

Yet another reason not to have placards! 

[TexDoc]

Remember, Doc's a Referee, so doesn't sweat much.

I sweat in a snowstorm. 

My SV shirt gets used 5 or 6 times a year so that helps.  I have a dedicated varsity shirt that always lasts several years, no fading, etc.  Maybe I just have a great wife!!! 

[rickref]

Yet another reason not to have placards! 

I may be in minority here but I hate them and I wish as a chapter we would drop them. When you go to placing them on shirts if not sewn on right or attched another way they simply look bad.

If we do a shirt change I hope TASO elects not to use them. Getting into too many factors on costs and shirts etc for members. We already have enough issues with retention adding more costs in simply do not help.   

[TXMike]

But these "pretty" shirts will help with recruiting and retention because everyone refs so they can look "nice" right?   

[Joe Stack]

Guys, the letters (whatever you want to call them) are here to stay regardless of what TASO does with the shirt design. I would, however, like to remove all flags and patches.

I'm lukewarm on the actual design presented, but am much in favor of a change. From a practical standpoint, we have too many guys who are not upgrading their equipment as needed. This will be a big step (at least for now).

As far as wear, 3-4 years should be a minimum. But you need to take care when you wash. Don't wash shirts on hot. Also, one of the problems with some washers is they don't get all the soap out of the fabric and it wears faster. Most washers have a double rinse feature. Use that and your clothes will come out much cleaner and I think help the life of shirt.

[txmustang68]

The placards are the most retarded uniform change yet. Absolutely retarded and useless.

[blindref757]

The baseball division could hardly imagine people switching from navy blue shirts to black shirts.  Its now 5 years later and there are no navy blue shirts on the field.   UIL Basketball shirts are now grey.  People like to look like the pros...credibility I suppose.  So if the pros have 2 inch stripes, it will happen here too.

[clearwall]

I dont care all that much, but i will say I think the proposed design does look better.

[Rulesman]

What actual physical benefit does a different shirt design provide?

They fatten up the wallets of the manufacturers and distributors. 

[Joe Stack]

Welpe: are you putting your shirts in the dryer? If so, STOP. They will hang dry in less than half an hour (pants too).

DO NOT put any performance clothing item in the dryer unless you have an air dry (no heat) feature. Heat is what breaks that stuff down, not constant washing. Since I have hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars invested in performance clothing, some over a decade old and still going strong, I will hold myself out as some sort of an authority on this stuff.

On the other hand, some things just deteriorate with WEAR over time. Socks are a good example of something that is a 3-4 year item at most, no matter how well you care for them. The friction with the shoe wears them out.

PM me if you want to know my favorite brands and what wears/washes up well.

[Looker44]

Don't care to buy one more set of shirts, but American flag should be on FRONT

[backjudge85]

Guys,

The placards are just an OPTION.  TASO has no mandatory requirement that they be worn.  They are to only be worn if the WHOLE crew wants to wear them.  You are making a big deal over nothing.  It is simple:  If you and the rest of your crew like them, wear them and if none of you do, then don't.