Buffalo vs Ohio

[JasonTX]

Is this reviewable?  Team A runner is 5 yards beyond the NZ and throws a forward pass that is caught for a TD.  No flag is thrown.

[TXMike]

Part of the problem is the freaking rule lets all TD's be reviewable but seems to set limits on the safetys that can be reviewed

More complete video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ThmG5KSpP0

[TxSkyBolt]

So what was he talking to the RO about? Surely the RO told him he screwed the pooch.

[Sonofanump]

Oh please, that R is already suicidal!

I don't blame R for the IG call.  The L turned to run at him right away without looking for an eligible receiver and the F had his key in the vicinity.  I could not find the F in the clips, could someone point to what yard line has was at?

[Andrew McCarthy]

We've been down this road before, including this thread from last year where someone threw out a hypothetical IG from the 4 yard line that was somehow ruled a safety.

Mind.  Blown.

http://www.refstripes.com/forum/index.php?topic=9751.25

[TXMike]

Not that they had much choice but MAC admits the error

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/mac/2013/11/06/buffalo-ohio-missed-call-on-safety-frank-solich-jeff-quinn/3456003/

[bafra31]

RR has tweeted that "It should have been reviewed. The rule allows for review of egregious errors."

https://twitter.com/CFBRulesExpert/status/399288443596857344

[TXMike]

I hope this is legit as it supports my comments on the rule but how do we know it is legit.   Really does not seem RR would use this technique to put info out

[SouthGARef]

I hope this is legit as it supports my comments on the rule but how do we know it is legit.   Really does not seem RR would use this technique to put info out

Mike Pereira says it is Rogers.

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[Andrew McCarthy]

I hope this is legit as it supports my comments on the rule but how do we know it is legit.   Really does not seem RR would use this technique to put info out

Maybe he's branching out to new media.

Last night on the Louisville game he said during the first review they were looking to see if the runner was down or his forward progress was stopped before the ball was pried out.

And it really sounded like him.

[dvasques]

David Cutaia is the owner of this account and he said he was leaving the account to RR today. Mike Pereira said so too. I think it's legit

[Joe Stack]

Replay aside, I know exactly why this happened, and its happened to me before: the R is following the QB and doesn't know until he turns his head downfield whether this is IG or not -- most likely, he needs help to make that determination. By the time all that is done, he doesn't know for sure where the spot of the pass is. In this case, the result is devastating and looks absolutely ugly but its easy to see why it occurred.

Any suggestions on a mechanic that could prevent this sort of thing? When I now have a possible IG situation, I go to the spot immediately and make my wing come to me. If we determine IG, then I drop the flag.

[RunRickyRun]

Replay aside, I know exactly why this happened, and its happened to me before: the R is following the QB and doesn't know until he turns his head downfield whether this is IG or not -- most likely, he needs help to make that determination. By the time all that is done, he doesn't know for sure where the spot of the pass is. In this case, the result is devastating and looks absolutely ugly but its easy to see why it occurred.

Any suggestions on a mechanic that could prevent this sort of thing? When I now have a possible IG situation, I go to the spot immediately and make my wing come to me. If we determine IG, then I drop the flag.

We had a discussion about this the other night.  Most of the experienced white hats seemed to feel it was unforgivable not to know from where the pass was thrown - "the spot is the most important thing the R needs to know, he should go there immediately!," seemed to be the consensus.  As a less experienced official, I tend to agree with your analysis.  It's easy for any official to become disoriented on where some certain action took place during the flow of the play.  In most cases we have either a flag or a bean bag down to assist us as live action continues.  My initial thought was that the R could drop a bean bag...  this idea was resoundingly rejected.

[Diablo]

It's easy for any official to become disoriented on where some certain action took place during the flow of the play.  In most cases we have either a flag or a bean bag down to assist us as live action continues.  My initial thought was that the R could drop a bean bag...  this idea was resoundingly rejected.

 

I think dropping a hat would be better.  This situation is similar to when an eligible Team A receiver or gunner on a punt steps out of bounds.

[Osric Pureheart]

I do wonder how, as football officials, any of us ever arrived at the point where we're carrying little things that are specifically designed to be thrown on the ground, and are now thinking "nah, better to throw the hat instead".

[bama_stripes]

Replay aside, I know exactly why this happened, and its happened to me before: the R is following the QB and doesn't know until he turns his head downfield whether this is IG or not -- most likely, he needs help to make that determination. By the time all that is done, he doesn't know for sure where the spot of the pass is. In this case, the result is devastating and looks absolutely ugly but its easy to see why it occurred.

OK, I'll give you that an R might not know exactly where the pass was thrown from.  But he better dam sure know whether or not it was from the EZ.