Author Topic: You Make the Call! (Read 18300 times)

TXMike · « **on:** December 03, 2014, 05:00:09 AM »

http://www.hudl.com/presview/297375

BlindZebra · « **Reply #1 on:** December 03, 2014, 09:14:11 AM »

Illegal. Towards the original position at the snap.

bossman72 · « **Reply #2 on:** December 03, 2014, 09:16:08 AM »

Looks like a crack-back to me.

Mike, how did you set that play up like that in Hudl?

Magician · « **Reply #3 on:** December 03, 2014, 09:38:54 AM »

Based on my understanding of the "crackback" provision in the rules, this does not fit. That provision was to prevent the receiver from cutting the guy on or near the LOS coming out to pursue this kind of play. This is downfield so 10-2 is what applies.

I know some like to interpret the "crackback" to be anything toward the direction of the line though the ball this quickly after the snap. If that's your interpretation this is a foul. That's not my understanding though.

Fatman325 · « **Reply #4 on:** December 03, 2014, 09:53:10 AM »

This is a foul. It is back toward the ball and is only 2 yards downfield. The crackback portion of the rule is designed to protect linebackers and this is a classic example of a LB being blocked low.

Etref · « **Reply #5 on:** December 03, 2014, 10:58:37 AM »

Not real sure he actually makes contact................

clearwall · « **Reply #6 on:** December 03, 2014, 03:11:07 PM »

Quote from: Etref on December 03, 2014, 10:58:37 AM

Not real sure he actually makes contact................

That was my first thought too. I dont think you'd get criticized for throwing it, though.

What was the flag for? Why was it thrown so late nowhere near the foul? It looks like hes calling a late hit OOB.

BamaRef · « **Reply #7 on:** December 03, 2014, 03:12:41 PM »

copedaddy · « **Reply #8 on:** December 03, 2014, 03:44:20 PM »

This is like a similar thread before. There seems to be a 50/50 split of what is meant by back toward the original position of the ball at the snap. I would like to see RR clear this up.

Birddog · « **Reply #9 on:** December 03, 2014, 04:40:22 PM »

I have a flag on this. Back towards the ball at the snap. I think this is what the rule is intended to do.

TXMike · « **Reply #10 on:** December 03, 2014, 05:21:40 PM »

Quote from: copedaddy on December 03, 2014, 03:44:20 PM

This is like a similar thread before. There seems to be a 50/50 split of what is meant by back toward the original position of the ball at the snap. I would like to see RR clear this up.

did you see the most recent CFO video that Redding did? I thought he answered this once and for all. That being said, I will agree with the multitude believe the language needs to be cleaned up.

psv · « **Reply #11 on:** December 03, 2014, 06:24:54 PM »

To me, this is BBW. It is back toward the original position of the ball at the snap and the runner is still either in, or very close to being in the low blocking zone.

10 yards down the field, I would pass on this.

TxMike -> which specific video was it?

TXMike · « **Reply #12 on:** December 03, 2014, 06:46:10 PM »

Play 15

dvasques · « **Reply #13 on:** December 03, 2014, 08:15:49 PM »

play 15 is peel back block isn't it?

TXMike · « **Reply #14 on:** December 03, 2014, 08:23:56 PM »

Are you looking at the video for officials or the one for media? The one for officials is a play from Ohio St - Penn St

TxSkyBolt · « **Reply #15 on:** December 03, 2014, 08:25:30 PM »

Can this be viewed on an iPad? I get silver light must be installed but then it says to install the hudl app which I already have.

Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

TXMike · « **Reply #16 on:** December 03, 2014, 08:38:11 PM »

There seems to be an issue when using those un-American iPad/iPod/iPhone/iWhatevers. We will have to work with HUDL folks to see if they have a workaround. (But you can't install Silverlight on an iSomething can you ? ?)

dvasques · « **Reply #17 on:** December 03, 2014, 09:07:19 PM »

I've watched the Game Review 6 again (officials version) and cannot find Penn St vs Ohio St...

All I could find was Penn St vs Temple and Ohio St vs Minnesotta

I will now look at play 15 of every other Game Review

dvasques · « **Reply #18 on:** December 03, 2014, 09:10:29 PM »

Game Review 5
That's it!

But still, I am in doubt... RR doesn't really explains much about how long into the play are we to consider crackbacks illegals or not
I think I understand the intent of the rule but I haven't watched the original play of the post here to have doubts about it

Rulesman · « **Reply #19 on:** December 03, 2014, 09:10:33 PM »

Quote from: Etref on December 03, 2014, 10:58:37 AM

Not real sure he actually makes contact................

I thought the same thing.

TXMike · « **Reply #20 on:** December 03, 2014, 09:12:11 PM »

For the purposes of this discussion he DID make contact although not "vicious"

BoBo · « **Reply #21 on:** December 04, 2014, 07:30:52 AM »

Crackback or in reality does he even get the Defender between 10-2??

SA_Zebra · « **Reply #22 on:** December 04, 2014, 08:55:25 AM »

This is a tough one. I think I would be inclined to flag it.

clearwall · « **Reply #23 on:** December 04, 2014, 02:39:31 PM »

Quote from: TXMike on December 03, 2014, 08:38:11 PM

There seems to be an issue when using those un-American iPad/iPod/iPhone/iWhatevers. We will have to work with HUDL folks to see if they have a workaround. (But you can't install Silverlight on an iSomething can you ? ?)

They need to have a popup that allows you to open the link in the hudl app.

BrendanP · « **Reply #24 on:** December 04, 2014, 04:07:57 PM »

I think this would have been legal if he'd lined up as a wing or a tight end, but as a wideout, that's illegal.

Author Topic: You Make the Call! (Read 18300 times)

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