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Offline AlUpstateNY

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Re: Texas A&M coach striking opposing player on sideline
« Reply #25 on: January 01, 2015, 09:49:34 AM »
So I'll then go back to my original question. If dead ball officiating in the bench area is not the responsibility of the 8 on the field, WHO is responsible for policing that area? Giving the crew a pass is not acceptable IMO.

Although "Dead Ball Officiating" is an important part of every official's job, suggesting they are ultimately responsible for EVERYTHING ANY FOOL CAN CONJURE UP, takes it way too far.  These were well intended, well concealed CHEAP SHOTS, that without the presence of constant cameras, with slow motion and unending replay capability may well have gone totally unoticed because they were TOTALLY unanticipated, out of place and suprising.

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Re: More Bowl Misbehavior
« Reply #26 on: January 01, 2015, 11:12:27 AM »
You are missing the point Al.  In THESE 2 plays the action was right where we should have been looking.  ANYTIME opponents are in other team area we need to be there.  And when the runner is going into team area how are we not there?

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Re: More Bowl Misbehavior
« Reply #27 on: January 01, 2015, 11:44:02 AM »
We definitely do need to be aware and police it better. In this case you had the U, deep wing and possibly R looking there for sure


Looking, watching, seeing ain't enough.  The flank officials must go into the bench area, give voice and escort the odd jersey out.
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Re: More Bowl Misbehavior
« Reply #28 on: January 01, 2015, 11:45:47 AM »
Anytime a runner goes into the opponents team area then someone needs to be his escort.  Leave the dead ball spot and let the opposite wing use crossfield mechanics, don't worry about getting a new ball, just get in there and make sure nothing stupid takes place.  Once the dust has settled then we'll worry about the spot and get the ball back in.

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Re: More Bowl Misbehavior
« Reply #29 on: January 01, 2015, 01:13:32 PM »
You are missing the point Al.  In THESE 2 plays the action was right where we should have been looking.  ANYTIME opponents are in other team area we need to be there.  And when the runner is going into team area how are we not there? 

I acknowledged that "Dead Ball officiating" is an important part of EVERY official's job, but to suggest it's an official's FAULT when either a player (or in this instance) a membany er of the coaching staff or some other administrative individual CHOOSES to BEHAVE in a totally UNACCEPTABLE manner is going WAY TOO FAR.

The problem is UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR being tolerated by those in charge of players and sideline personnel, far more than official's ability to catch those misbehaving.  Shifting that responsibility from those BEHAVING BADLY to officials only serves to encourage more bad behavior, in hopes of getting away with it.


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Re: More Bowl Misbehavior
« Reply #30 on: January 01, 2015, 01:29:04 PM »
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I acknowledged that "Dead Ball officiating" is an important part of EVERY official's job, but to suggest it's an official's FAULT when either a player (or in this instance) a membany er of the coaching staff or some other administrative individual CHOOSES to BEHAVE in a totally UNACCEPTABLE manner is going WAY TOO FAR.

The problem is UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR being tolerated by those in charge of players and sideline personnel, far more than official's ability to catch those misbehaving.  Shifting that responsibility from those BEHAVING BADLY to officials only serves to encourage more bad behavior, in hopes of getting away with it.

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Re: More Bowl Misbehavior
« Reply #31 on: January 01, 2015, 05:27:40 PM »
I acknowledged that "Dead Ball officiating" is an important part of EVERY official's job, but to suggest it's an official's FAULT when either a player (or in this instance) a member of the coaching staff or some other administrative individual CHOOSES to BEHAVE in a totally UNACCEPTABLE manner is going WAY TOO FAR.
I don't believe anyone suggested these acts were the fault of any official. That is the same as trying to blame the cop who hands out the speeding ticket because the driver chose to break the law. Our job is to officiate the game. Part of that job is to expect the unexpected and take care of business. That includes penalizing any infraction committed by anyone subject to the rules, including student coaches who act stupid, particularly when film shows the act is observed by more than one set of eyes. In these two instances, the 8 on the field charged with that duty failed. No more; no less. Obviously, we're not going to change your mind, so we'll agree to disagree and move on.
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