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Restrictions During Charged Team Timeout
« on: October 15, 2015, 10:33:31 PM »
During a charged team timeout, how far on to the field can the coach come?  How many players from the bench can come on to the field?  How far down the field can they huddle...i.e all the way down at the goal line, at the 10, at the 25?  How many coaches can come on the field? 

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Re: Restrictions During Charged Team Timeout
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2015, 02:14:51 AM »
And I will add: Mimimun distance from a player/member (Team B) to opponent huddle (Team A) ?

None of this is in rulebook.
Only players must be ready when time out is exhausted (and other members in team area)
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Re: Restrictions During Charged Team Timeout
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2015, 04:43:49 AM »
Around here the coach can come in to the numbers but no further downfield than the 25. We don't really care how many people there are in the timeout huddle.

I would keep an opponent on his side of the LOS (or a restraining line) and in the field of play if he attempts to listen in to a huddle.

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Re: Restrictions During Charged Team Timeout
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2015, 06:27:14 AM »
Around here the coach can come in to the numbers but no further downfield than the 25.
Is there rule support for that?

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Re: Restrictions During Charged Team Timeout
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2015, 06:39:16 AM »
Is there rule support for that?

Well, technically I guess the coaches have the permission from the referee to do so, so yes, rule 9-2-1-b-1.

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Re: Restrictions During Charged Team Timeout
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2015, 07:28:06 AM »
So if the R decides to allow him to come into the hashes at the 5 yard line, that is okay also?

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Re: Restrictions During Charged Team Timeout
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2015, 07:43:43 AM »
So if the R decides to allow him to come into the hashes at the 5 yard line, that is okay also?

Rule is pretty clearly worded "During the game, coaches, ....... shall not be on the field of play or outside the 25-yard lines without permission from the referee ...." , so if we (R) allow him to go in to the hashes at the 5 yard line then it's OK.  But I would add that we are only going to allow what our supervisor instructs us to allow.
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Re: Restrictions During Charged Team Timeout
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2015, 08:14:56 AM »
Same question, but during an injury timeout? Where can players and coaches go?

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Re: Restrictions During Charged Team Timeout
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2015, 10:59:39 AM »
As far as I know, there is nothing in the rule book in regards to where a team can or cannot be during a timeout...now the coaches, that's a different story, they have to remain in the coaches box unless the referee allows him onto the field.  ...oh and obviously, the coach is allowed on the field to attend to an injured player.

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Re: Restrictions During Charged Team Timeout
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2015, 11:07:02 AM »
The answer to your question is not in the rules book, but can be found in the CCA mechanics manual.  In the 8-man manual, timeout procedures start on page 76.

Under the Side Judge and Field Judge mechanics, "If a team huddles near the sideline, all players and coaches must remain outside the numbers and in front of the team area."

Rule 9-2-1-b-1 is not intended to allow coaches on the field for a non-injury timeout.  The only time the R should allow a coach to come beyond the numbers is to attend to an injured player. 

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Re: Restrictions During Charged Team Timeout
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2015, 11:54:24 AM »
Just found the attached bulletin from CFO from last year

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Re: Restrictions During Charged Team Timeout
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2015, 01:52:32 PM »
I remember from the distant past, on injury timeouts, teams were told to stay in the "huddle" area, only coaches were allowed to attend the player with the injury and absolutely NO WATER.  I really don't miss those days. But I still run across officials who think it hasn't changed.

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Re: Restrictions During Charged Team Timeout
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2015, 08:52:19 PM »
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Just found the attached bulletin from CFO from last year

Since it is written by the NCAA rules committee, does it have the same authority an AR would have?

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Re: Restrictions During Charged Team Timeout
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2015, 09:15:55 PM »
I would normally say yes.  However, this was before this year's rulebook was written and it  was not included in there (although it is in the CFO mechanics manuals).  I am going to bring the issue up for TASO and UIL to consider during next year's rule exceptions process and see if we can't get some definitive UIL "exception" that somehow makes clear it will not apply to us (unless they want it to).  To me it seems like looking for boogers as I can see no reason, at our level, for such a restriction.  There are some reasons for it at the major college level but I don't think they are concerns for us.