enforcement from the goal line

[dvasques]

having a hard time reading this

10-2-2-d-2-c
Goal line, when a foul occurs after a change of team possession in the end zone, the related run ends in the end zone, and the result of the play is not a touchback

are we talking about a change of possession in the end zone, or are we talking about a foul in the end zone after a change of possession?

same question for b
are we talking about cop in the field of play or foul in the field of play after cop?

[Legacy Zebra]

It's talking about where the change of possession is. Remember these are talking about determining the basic spot and the basic spot never depends on where the foul is.

[dvasques]

yeah thanks Legacy

I was having a hard time explaining a situation around here and got all messed up by 10-2-2-d-2
But in the end, I shouldn't even have gone to that because my answer was ta 10-2-2-c

[NCAA-SJ]

COP. This one covers the freaky play where, for example, an interception in the EZ is then fumbled in the EZ, but the ball rolls into the field of play, but then is batted by B back into the EZ.  The results of this play, due to the bat, is a safety versus a touchback, so they don't want to give them the 20yd line as the basic spot. 

In B, it's a COP in the field of play.

Keep in mind, it doesn't matter where the foul occurs for this.  First step is ALWAYS, as you are doing, find the basic spot.  So, review the play to determine that.  Where the foul occurs NEVER determines the basic spot...only the type of play does that.  These are awkward because they are plays that have no neutral zone (after change of team possession).

The simple way I remember it is understand the simplicity of A.  COP in EZ and results of play is TB, then basic is 20yd.  Everything else involving EZ after COP has goal line as basic spot.  (exception: momentum, which is completely different topic)

[dvasques]

yeah, so my confusion started on a play with momentum exception

and instead of understanding that basic spot was where the COP happened and the exception would kick in, I started thinking about goal line being the enforcement spot (which it is in the play in question) but then I messed myself up with enforcement spot, basic spot and spot of the foul.

Play is in the game review video 5
A in intercepted at B-3 with momentum carrying the defender to his end zone. He tries to run the ball out but can't and is tackled. While he's running, another B player IBB at the goal line.
Result is a safety and I know the enforcement was the goal line.

So I started to try explaining why enforcement was from the goal line and instead of going to 10-2-2-c, which is clear and simple.
Basic spot being end of the run, which is B-3 by the momentum exception. Foul is behind basic spot so enforcement is from spot of the foul. Puts the ball in the end zone, so safety.

I went over to trying to trying to find the basic spot at the goal line.
All clear now and I once again thank you all for the help

[Kalle]

COP. This one covers the freaky play where,

It also covers all plays where there is a fumble in the EZ after the COP and the ball comes out of the end zone, with the foul being between the COP and the end of the fumble.

[Morningrise]

This rule can apply regardless of whether there's any momentum, or any interception in the end zone, or any fumble in the end zone.

B22 catches any kick/pass/fumble at e.g. the B-6, but retreats into the end zone where he is tackled by the face mask. The basic spot is the goal line. B's 1/10 @ B-15. Easy.