Author Topic: National Championship onside kick (Read 15150 times)

Ted T · « **on:** January 11, 2016, 11:09:55 PM »

So, I take it that the ball does not have to touch the ground prior to K recovering in college football?

TXMike · « **Reply #1 on:** January 11, 2016, 11:18:15 PM »

You take it right and one would think a major college head coach would know that rule also

Legacy Zebra · « **Reply #2 on:** January 11, 2016, 11:32:29 PM »

As long as there is not a receiving team player in position to make the kick, of course. If there is somebody there in position, they must be given the opportunity to make the catch.

golfingref · « **Reply #3 on:** January 12, 2016, 06:08:07 AM »

Just had a chance to slow mo a good replay of foot hitting ball. The ball goes straight in the air and doesn't bounce off the ground. In Federation, the ball must hit the ground and go 10 yards. Is the requirement different in NCAA? If so, would that play have been review-able?

ETXZebra · « **Reply #4 on:** January 12, 2016, 06:17:40 AM »

Not a requirement in NCAA.

TXMike · « **Reply #5 on:** January 12, 2016, 07:02:54 AM »

This may be what had the Clemson coach so crazy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K5tpjO4zw4 Go to the 28:58 mark of the video. This was in Clemson game last year against South Carolina. You might want to mute the volume as the announcers do not have a clue. BIG difference between what happened last year and this year though.

goodgrr · « **Reply #6 on:** January 12, 2016, 07:12:47 AM »

Here's video of the kick for those that never saw it:

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:14553654

Rulesman · « **Reply #7 on:** January 12, 2016, 07:48:54 AM »

Quote from: TXMike on January 11, 2016, 11:18:15 PM

You take it right and one would think a major college head coach would know that rule also

And one who has been a major college coach for several years. This wasn't his first rodeo.

Rulesman · « **Reply #8 on:** January 12, 2016, 07:50:21 AM »

Bottom line, Alabama caught Clemson napping. And not knowing the rule, either.

VALJ · « **Reply #9 on:** January 12, 2016, 07:59:00 AM »

It sure looked to me like Dabo was trying to convince the official that his player was in position to catch the ball. In which case, not even close, coach.

TampaSteve · « **Reply #10 on:** January 12, 2016, 08:00:26 AM »

I wish NCAA would really put a harder foot down on these NCAA lunatics. - like last night..Harbaugh comes to mind too.

TXMike · « **Reply #11 on:** January 12, 2016, 08:20:32 AM »

Redding has made it perfectly clear he wants it stopped. Can't speak for individual conference commissioners and supervisors

getnbetter · « **Reply #12 on:** January 12, 2016, 08:33:05 AM »

Clemson coach said after the game that they had a situation last year where the ball was taken from them because they didn't give the other team the opportunity to catch the ball, but as was stated earlier, there was no way the Clemson player was in a position to catch the ball. I'd love to see the play he's referring to though.

TxSkyBolt · « **Reply #13 on:** January 12, 2016, 08:41:12 AM »

I watched the play he refers to on another forum. In that play the receiver was going up for the ball and was inches from catching it when the kicking team player snatched it from the air.

Grant - AR · « **Reply #14 on:** January 12, 2016, 09:31:26 AM »

I just merged the two topics on this play.

TXMike · « **Reply #15 on:** January 12, 2016, 09:51:20 AM »

Quote from: getnbetter on January 12, 2016, 08:33:05 AM

Clemson coach said after the game that they had a situation last year where the ball was taken from them because they didn't give the other team the opportunity to catch the ball, but as was stated earlier, there was no way the Clemson player was in a position to catch the ball. I'd love to see the play he's referring to though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K5tpjO4zw4 Go to the 28:58 mark of the video. This was in Clemson game last year against South Carolina. You might want to mute the volume as the announcers do not have a clue. BIG difference between what happened last year and this year though.

getnbetter · « **Reply #16 on:** January 12, 2016, 09:57:39 AM »

In no way was this the same thing. In the game last night, the Clemson player was nowhere near being in a position to catch the ball. Sour grapes by the coach.

BIG DON · « **Reply #17 on:** January 12, 2016, 09:58:38 AM »

I am not a Bama fan, that being said It was a great call and worked to perfection and Clemson was caught with their pants down. The down side is that some high school coaches have already added that onside kick to their play books, and will try that play next year. The sad part is that some officiating crews will allow play to stand and give the kicking team the ball. I have had the misfortune to officiating a game where the crew the week before did not know the federation rule and allowed the play to stand. Then the very next week they try it again and it work like they hoped but I enforce it like it should have been according to federation rules. Because it was allowed the week before I am now the bad guy and worst official that they have seen. It makes for a long game after that because it put your crew under the microscope even more and everything you do from that point on come into question. Now after 18 years on the field it does not bother me that what I do comes into question, I go out every week and put the best product out on the field. Am I prefect ? no, but if I go out and do my best week end and week out I am satisfied I did my Job.

Logical · « **Reply #18 on:** January 12, 2016, 12:22:02 PM »

I agree, some HS coaches will add this to game plan, so, hopefully memories are not too short and this play will be addressed in the HS associations first meeting for the 2016 season explaining to all HS officials that this is NOT legal in HS; the ball MUST be grounded.

Also, seems Swinney was not only out-coached by Saban last night but was also out-coached by Spurrier last year; Clemson handled incorrectly last night; SC handled correctly last year.
Dabo, look down at your ankles and you'll find your pants (i.e. caught with pants down ;-)

That aside, a GREAT game; generally well played and coached on both sides.

ncwingman · « **Reply #19 on:** January 12, 2016, 02:48:08 PM »

Quote from: VALJ on January 12, 2016, 07:59:00 AM

It sure looked to me like Dabo was trying to convince the official that his player was in position to catch the ball. In which case, not even close, coach.

I'd agree with that. At the end of this clip (about 1:28), if you can read his lips, it looks like he's trying to say "We've got to have a chance to catch the ball!"