Low Blocking Quandry

[TXMike]

Situation A:
1 & 10 at 50.  Tackle A75 blocks LB B40 low and from the side (not 10-2) at the B-47 (3 yards beyond the NZ).  The ball is still in the tackle box.

Situation B:
1 & 10 at 50.  Tackle A75 blocks LB B40 low and from the rear (but not below the knees) at the B-47 (3 yards beyond the NZ).  The ball is still in the blocking zone

RULINGS ?

[Legacy Zebra]

A is a foul, B depends on how far behind the line of scrimmage the ball is at the time of the block. The blocking zone is only 3 yards deep and disintegrates when the ball leaves. The tackle box goes all the way back to Team A's end line. So it's possible for the ball to be within the tackle box but outside the blocking zone. So if the ball is or has been more than 3 yards behind the line, B is a foul. If the ball stayed within the 3-yard-deep blocking zone, B is legal.

[refbuz]

Unless I'm missing something, I have fouls in both plays.  Once A75 leaves the Tackle Box, he becomes a restricted player and can only block 10-2.

The following Team A players may legally block below the waist inside the tackle box until they leave the tackle box or until the ball has left the tackle box

Since the Tackle Box doesn't extend past the LOS, A75 losses the privelige of being able to block outside the 10-2 range when he goes to the B47.

[TXMike]

Unless I'm missing something, I have fouls in both plays.  Once A75 leaves the Tackle Box, he becomes a restricted player and can only block 10-2.

  What does the clipping rule say?

[NVFOA_Ump]

  What does the clipping rule say?

Situation B is a legal 9-1-5 Exception 1 clip, but the 9-1-6 BBW rules say it's an illegal BBW. 

The extra three yard difference in the blocking zone vs. the tackle box creates the conflict. I believe the two zones need to both be defined by the NZ (no extra three yards for the blocking zone) for the current wording of the two rules to work.

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[JasonTX]

I'm saying he got him at 6 o'clock and not 10 to 2.    

[NVFOA_Ump]

So in the area marked in red in the attached diagram are we saying that the "legal clipping" exception gets overridden by the BBW rule?   So while the clip in that area is legal per rule 9-1-5, we flag for an illegal BBW per rule 9-1-6?  That effectively removes the 3 yards beyond the NZ from the blocking zone for 9-1-5 (clipping)?


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[bossman72]

So in the area marked in red in the attached diagram are we saying that the "legal clipping" exception gets overridden by the BBW rule?   So while the clip in that area is legal per rule 9-1-5, we flag for an illegal BBW per rule 9-1-6?  That effectively removes the 3 yards beyond the NZ from the blocking zone?

Yes, that sounds correct.  The only thing in the blocking zone you're allowed to do is block in the back.  That's really the only purpose it serves now.