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Offline VA-Ump

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ABA on a Free Kick
« on: August 17, 2018, 11:40:26 AM »
Had and interesting discussion last night.  Given that 3.2.4.c.7 now explicitly removes the axiom of the play clock always going to 25 following a kick down, when we have an ABA situation on a free kick, getting A's offense back on the field may be problematic in avoiding a delay or A having to take a TO.  We were wondering if there might be a forthcoming editorial change.  This is really the same issue as a pick-6.  The coaches are just going to have to have their teams prepared to get on the field quicker.
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Re: ABA on a Free Kick
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2018, 01:06:13 PM »
Quote from: VA-Ump on August 17, 2018, 11:40:26 AM
This is really the same issue as a pick-6.  The coaches are just going to have to have their teams prepared to get on the field quicker.

I think you answered your own question.  The Rules Committee - all coaches and ADs - developed and approved this rule change.  It is their rule.  As written, the rule applies to any free kick, except the FK to start the 1st and 3rd periods, regardless of who will next snap.  As you stated, they just have to have their teams ready.  To do otherwise is to defy the whole point if the rule, which is to speed the game.  Not our doing.  Tell the PCO to take it easy, and remind the teams to get on the field, all all will be OK, I think.
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Re: ABA on a Free Kick
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2018, 01:16:49 PM »
Quote from: ElvisLives on August 17, 2018, 01:06:13 PM
except the FK to start the 1st and 3rd periods

Where did this interpretation come from? I haven’t heard anything like that.
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Re: ABA on a Free Kick
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2018, 01:25:02 PM »
I guess I missed that too.
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Offline TXMike

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Re: ABA on a Free Kick
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2018, 02:33:42 PM »
Always have the option of pumping it up to 25 if deemed justIfied by R
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Offline Sonofanump

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Re: ABA on a Free Kick
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2018, 08:09:11 PM »
Quote from: Legacy Zebra on August 17, 2018, 01:16:49 PM
Where did this interpretation come from? I haven’t heard anything like that.

I assumed as Robert did, that since this is a FK not after a score that the play clock would be 25 to start the half for the FK
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Offline TXMike

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Re: ABA on a Free Kick
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2018, 08:42:16 PM »
It is not the free kick down where the 40 sec clock is used anyway.  IT is the down AFTER the FK down
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Re: ABA on a Free Kick
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2018, 11:23:10 PM »
Y’all didn’t miss anything - I just screwed the pooch on that.  Don’t know what I was thinking...  Sorry, just got off track.  Applies to the next scrimmage down (or Try) after ALL free kicks.

But, the coaches conceived and adopted this rule, so they get what they asked for.

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Re: ABA on a Free Kick
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2018, 03:56:35 PM »
Quote from: VA-Ump on August 17, 2018, 11:40:26 AM
Had and interesting discussion last night.  Given that 3.2.4.c.7 now explicitly removes the axiom of the play clock always going to 25 following a kick down, when we have an ABA situation on a free kick, getting A's offense back on the field may be problematic in avoiding a delay or A having to take a TO.  We were wondering if there might be a forthcoming editorial change.  This is really the same issue as a pick-6.  The coaches are just going to have to have their teams prepared to get on the field quicker.

I don't think it really matters too much.  In either situation, you have to bring the kicking units off and bring your normal O or D back on, no matter who has the ball.  They'll just have to come up with a play quick.
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Re: ABA on a Free Kick
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2018, 08:05:31 PM »
We already have teams who are planning to catch the defense off guard.  After the return they will leave that same unit on the field for offense and directly line up in their offensive formation.  Meanwhile the defense is over there trying to switch out players.  Since they didn't substitute we aren't holding the snap.
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Re: ABA on a Free Kick
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2018, 10:45:52 PM »
Quote from: JasonTX on August 19, 2018, 08:05:31 PM
We already have teams who are planning to catch the defense off guard.  After the return they will leave that same unit on the field for offense and directly line up in their offensive formation.  Meanwhile the defense is over there trying to switch out players.  Since they didn't substitute we aren't holding the snap.

From what I hear Steve Shaw is going to have a bulletin about this shortly...They want iron cross mechanics here even if the offense doesn't sub.
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