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Offline JasonTX

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IDP
« on: September 26, 2019, 11:44:46 PM »
Did anyone catch the IDP called in the Notre Dame game around 5 minutes in the 4th.  Notre Dame passer legally grounds the ball out of bounds.  This year that is not a foul.   My question is can replay get involved with that?
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Offline TXMike

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Re: IDP
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2019, 03:48:25 AM »
An unfairness in the rule.  Incomplete pass but you judge he was trying to dump it and no IDP.  Incomplete pass but you don’t judge he was trying to ground it and IDP.   https://youtu.be/VgCONPZ6V10
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Re: IDP
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2019, 05:18:23 AM »
Quote from: TXMike on September 27, 2019, 03:48:25 AM
An unfairness in the rule.  Incomplete pass but you judge he was trying to dump it and no IDP.  Incomplete pass but you don’t judge he was trying to ground it and IDP.   https://youtu.be/VgCONPZ6V10

Maybe the eligible receiver (right split end #11 I believe) running the out route in the area where the pass landed was the reason that they did not consider this a "dump"?  If he dumped it "into the stands" there would have been no judgment to make?
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Offline Magician

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Re: IDP
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2019, 09:11:43 AM »
This didn't look like a dump to me. It looked like he's trying to complete the pass to the receiver in the area. I don't see that as a fairness imbalance. The facts are different. It's a foul if the pass is completed 1 yard beyond the LOS but not 1 yard behind. That's only a difference of 2 years so is that unfair as well.
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Offline TXMike

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Re: IDP
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2019, 11:10:58 AM »
Why should they get a pass when D has made a good enough play thatbthe QB was being forced to dump it but they don’t get a pass if the pass is just simply incomplete ?
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Online ElvisLives

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Re: IDP
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2019, 11:17:39 AM »
Quote from: TXMike on September 27, 2019, 11:10:58 AM
Why should they get a pass when D has made a good enough play thatbthe QB was being forced to dump it but they don’t get a pass if the pass is just simply incomplete ?

The argument is very subjective.  When he is throwing it away, he is acknowledging defeat (for that down), and is voluntarily, consciously, and deliberately giving up any possible yardage gain, and the down.  When he throws it to an area with a chance of being complete, he isn't "giving up," so his team is to be held to a higher standard.

Very subjective, but, that, I believe, is the philosophical concept.

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Offline TxBJ

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Re: IDP
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2019, 12:17:07 PM »
To answer the original question, no replay cannot get involved in that officially. Unofficially, however, he could alert the crew over O2O. I would think it would have to be a very obvious dump for him to do so.
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