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Offline TXMike

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Flagrant PFs
« on: October 01, 2019, 06:31:57 AM »
We always have the intellectual discussion about “flagrant personal foul” and the auto DQ it carries.  This one has to be right there in that discussion.  https://mobile.twitter.com/soonergridiron/status/1178011015717556224?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.com%2Fsports%2Ftexas-tech-defender-apologizes-nasty-hit-oklahoma
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Re: Flagrant PFs
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2019, 08:22:29 AM »
Not having the benefit of the entire play, there are at least 2 fouls committed.   
1)  Block below the waist back toward his own goal line.
2)  Blind side block

Were there flags thrown?     
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Re: Flagrant PFs
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2019, 08:48:11 AM »
Quote from: centexsports on October 01, 2019, 08:22:29 AM
Not having the benefit of the entire play, there are at least 2 fouls committed.   
1)  Block below the waist back toward his own goal line.
2)  Blind side block

Were there flags thrown?     

I would flag this as clipping although it's the same penalty. This isn't exactly what the BSB was going after because it's a foul without that. Technically most clipping fouls would be blind side blocks as well. I'm very slow to eject but something like this would definitely fit the category. He has no reason to even block this guy as the runner is stepping out of bounds. It's one thing to deliver a blind side block here but to go after a guy's knees and then from behind is too many factors to leave to just a personal foul.
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Re: Flagrant PFs
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2019, 10:27:47 AM »
This was a return after a turnover so ALL BBW was illegal.  Seems
To me that would add a degree of “flagrance” since all defensive guys should be taught their blocks will always have to be high
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Re: Flagrant PFs
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2019, 10:28:32 AM »
Quote from: centexsports on October 01, 2019, 08:22:29 AM
Not having the benefit of the entire play, there are at least 2 fouls committed.   
1)  Block below the waist back toward his own goal line.
2)  Blind side block

Were there flags thrown?   
. Was flagged
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Re: Flagrant PFs
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2019, 10:31:37 AM »
What was the foul called in the game?
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Re: Flagrant PFs
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2019, 11:03:13 AM »
Illegal Block Below the Waist.   Foul was after an interception.
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Re: Flagrant PFs
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2019, 12:55:18 PM »
Are y'all seeing a video?  All I see is a still photo.
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Re: Flagrant PFs
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2019, 02:39:41 PM »
Video from twitter. And a very ugly one...
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Re: Flagrant PFs
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2019, 02:50:40 PM »
Ah, geez.  You mean I gotta become President to look at plays, now?  Well, you all could do worse.  Vote for me. tiphat:

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Re: Flagrant PFs
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2019, 02:52:39 PM »
I've never even seen you, but I'd definetly vote for you to replace our current brazilian president!
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Re: Flagrant PFs
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2019, 07:25:42 PM »
I DSQ'd a player for a similar action last year and was told that I shouldn't disqualify for "football action" going forward. DSQ's were reserved for targeting and non-football actions like striking (punch, kick, etc.). That said, that feedback wasn't universal.
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Re: Flagrant PFs
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2019, 12:24:37 PM »
Quote from: TXMike on October 01, 2019, 06:31:57 AM
We always have the intellectual discussion about “flagrant personal foul” and the auto DQ it carries.  This one has to be right there in that discussion.  https://mobile.twitter.com/soonergridiron/status/1178011015717556224?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.com%2Fsports%2Ftexas-tech-defender-apologizes-nasty-hit-oklahoma

Would like to see a wider angle of the play but if he unimpededly hit him, would this not fall under 2-10-3 (A flagrant personal foul is illegal physical contact so extreme or
deliberate that it places an opponent in danger of catastrophic injury.)?
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