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Offline JasonTX

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Mercy Possession Change
« on: October 05, 2019, 07:17:26 PM »
During last nights game the home team is up 57 to 0.  The home team is free kicking and one of the home team players ends up recovering the rolling kick.  His head coach was mad.  He began yelling,  "NOOOO, give them the ball, give them the ball!!"  We signal first down for his team but he was adamant that we give the other team to ball.  Well ok then, first down the other way.
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Online GA Umpire

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Re: Mercy Possession Change
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2019, 09:28:41 PM »
Quote from: JasonTX on October 05, 2019, 07:17:26 PM
During last nights game the home team is up 57 to 0.  The home team is free kicking and one of the home team players ends up recovering the rolling kick.  His head coach was mad.  He began yelling,  "NOOOO, give them the ball, give them the ball!!"  We signal first down for his team but he was adamant that we give the other team to ball.  Well ok then, first down the other way.
Is that legal?
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Offline ilyazhito

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Re: Mercy Possession Change
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2019, 10:11:36 PM »
Not exactly. However, if I was the home team, I'd intentionally fumble the snap, or score a safety on myself to give the losing team the ball.
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Offline JasonTX

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Re: Mercy Possession Change
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2019, 10:17:11 PM »
Quote from: GA Umpire on October 05, 2019, 09:28:41 PM
Is that legal?

At that point there was only about a minute left in the game with a very generous clock operator who was very slow on stopping the clock.  He wasn't going to send his offense out so we didn't make a big deal out of it.  I was the B and was actually ignoring his request.  The U spotted the other teams ball and off we went.  It's not legal, but it's a good idea for a future rule.  Like baseball, a pitcher can walk a batter without throwing a single pitch.  Why not let the offense turn the ball over without even snapping the ball.   :thumbup
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Offline ElvisLives

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Re: Mercy Possession Change
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2019, 10:19:59 PM »
Quote from: GA Umpire on October 05, 2019, 09:28:41 PM
Is that legal?

No.  If Team A wanted Team B to have the ball, then fumble it, and let them recover on the next down.  Or take a knee four consecutive downs.  Sorry if that hurts you're stats.  But we can't circumvent the rules to make the look or feel better.

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Offline JasonTX

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Re: Mercy Possession Change
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2019, 10:20:08 PM »
Quote from: ilyazhito on October 05, 2019, 10:11:36 PM
Not exactly. However, if I was the home team, I'd intentionally fumble the snap, or score a safety on myself to give the losing team the ball.

On the kick it was their intention to just kick it short and let the other team recover it, but apparently they didn't tell the 3rd stringer not to run down the field.  He ran down and fell right on it.   hEaDbAnG
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Offline Ralph Damren

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Re: Mercy Possession Change
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2019, 01:01:27 PM »
In NFHS, the scored upon team can choose to free kick. This would have been a cleaner way to send the same message.
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Re: Mercy Possession Change
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2019, 07:35:18 AM »
Quote from: Ralph Damren on October 08, 2019, 01:01:27 PM
In NFHS, the scored upon team can choose to free kick. This would have been a cleaner way to send the same message.

But in this case, R is the scored-upon team.
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Offline Birddog

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Re: Mercy Possession Change
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2019, 09:27:37 AM »
I had a very similar situation.  Team kicking off is leading by 40+, I am L on winning sideline when the kicker duffs the kick and it looks just like an on-side kick but wasn't intended to be.  The HC comes up behind me and says over and over, "we didn't recover that ball".  I accommodate him and point in the direction of the receiving team recovery, I don't think I ever knew who actually recovered.

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Offline Ralph Damren

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Re: Mercy Possession Change
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2019, 10:27:20 AM »
Quote from: bama_stripes on October 09, 2019, 07:35:18 AM
But in this case, R is the scored-upon team.
When you're left-handed (like me) you sometimes get things bass ackwards.  ??? ;D
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