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Offline CalhounLJ

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Well, I'm back
« on: February 12, 2020, 11:32:37 AM »
Never say never I guess. I missed you guys.
Question - If you were going to compile a list of fundamentals supplemental to those in the book, what would you include? My assignor is trying to assemble a list of common principles of football to add to that list.

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Re: Well, I'm back
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2020, 11:54:37 AM »
Welcome back, Calhoun, it's enjoyable to hear from you again. With every rule change the Editorial Committee reviews the Football Fundamentals to see if any should be added or deleted. I feel the current listing is quite inclusive, but if your assigner wishes, he can submit his list to his state rules rep who can forward his suggestions on to NFHS for consideration.

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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2020, 06:42:41 PM »
Thanks Ralph. I think I used the wrong word. Iím thinking more along the lines of idioms. We are assembling an officials manual for our association with fundamentals mechanics and philosophies. We would like to include a section of idioms used to help remember basic applications. For example, ďK can recover a kick but not advance it.Ē Those things are basic truths every official should know. We want something to give the new guys when they sign up.

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Re: Well, I'm back
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2020, 07:37:50 PM »
The whistle doesn't stop play, its already dead.

See leather.

One incomplete, we're all incomplete.

A-B-A ready for play

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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2020, 07:08:06 AM »
Perfect.

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Re: Well, I'm back
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2020, 08:43:10 AM »
"A touchdown is forever".  (Meaning, it's hard to take one off the board once you throw your hands up).

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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2020, 08:49:47 AM »
Aint a passer till you pass it.
Aint a kicker til you kick it.

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Re: Well, I'm back
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2020, 09:13:34 AM »
"A touchdown is forever".  (Meaning, it's hard to take one off the board once you throw your hands up).

I like it. I might modify it slightly to "Points are forever"

If you go up quickly with a safety signal on the other goal line, oh you better be 100% correct. Nothing wrong with verifying with another official before awarding 2 points.

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Re: Well, I'm back
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2020, 09:14:30 AM »
Exactly what I need. Thanks guys. keep them coming

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Re: Well, I'm back
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2020, 09:14:57 AM »
See what you call.

Call what you see.

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Re: Well, I'm back
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2020, 10:59:01 AM »
A blown call is here to stay, a no call will go away.

A kick, is a kick, is a kick.

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Re: Well, I'm back
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2020, 11:47:45 AM »
Sh_t Happens on Kicks

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« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2020, 02:07:57 PM »
A kick, is a kick, is a kick.

...until it's possessed or becomes dead by rule.  We know what you meant, but the newbs might not.

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« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2020, 02:35:56 PM »
...until it's possessed or becomes dead by rule.  We know what you meant, but the newbs might not.

It doesn't matter how many times it's touched, or by whom, or in what direction, until it's possessed (or becomes dead by rule) it's still a kick.

No matter how hard you suck on a whistle, you won't get the TWEET back.

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Re: Well, I'm back
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2020, 03:20:29 PM »
Before we break for our opening kickoff positions we break with:

See the Ball!

Conversely:

Don't be a ball watcher.

When a play ain't pretty but is not illegal, remember -

It's like drinking out of a clean slop jar.  It don't look right but it's OK.

And my favorite:  I tell the captains after the coin toss, if they have to kick, just let me know if they want Chicken or No Chicken. 

Chicken = KFC (kick from the clock)
No Chicken = KTC (kick fro the clock)

If you are wondering, the last two came from my mentor in Mississippi who was a SEC official.

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Re: Well, I'm back
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2020, 04:13:23 PM »

For goal line

A plane going in

A line coming out
" I don't make the rules coach!"

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Re: Well, I'm back
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2020, 05:33:36 PM »
My RSO likes to tell us "I don't get calls about flags you didn't throw."

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« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2020, 08:07:33 AM »
SEE IT  :o.....THINK IT  ???.....CALL IT  ^flag ^good ^no ^TD

Don't rush your calls... ^talk chat with a crewmate before you make your call  ^talk

U.S. JUSTICE SYSTEM = GUILTY BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT  P_S P_S P_S P_S P_S
FOOTBALL FOUL SYSTEM = GUILTY BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT  ^flag ^flag ^flag ^flag ^flag

See it all before you call...if you aren't sure don't  ^flag

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« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2020, 09:05:09 AM »
My RSO likes to tell us "I don't get calls about flags you didn't throw."

I understand the concept behind the statement, but thatís not completely true. Ask the Saints. We better throw that obvious flag, because if we donít, somebody will get a call.

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Re: Well, I'm back
« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2020, 09:15:37 AM »
Any chance I could get a copy of that compiled list you're working on?

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Re: Well, I'm back
« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2020, 11:46:05 AM »
In one of the NFHS manuals there is a list of axioms such as if in doubt fumble or forward pass rule forward pass, in or OOB rule OOB. Iíll see if I can find it and post.


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« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2020, 11:47:41 AM »
Buy my favorite axiom is:

You have to see everything you call, but you donít have to call everything you see.


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« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2020, 01:57:28 PM »

And my favorite:  I tell the captains after the coin toss, if they have to kick, just let me know if they want Chicken or No Chicken. 

Chicken = KFC (kick from the clock)
No Chicken = KTC (kick fro the clock)

If you are wondering, the last two came from my mentor in Mississippi who was a SEC official.

Thought it might an Ohio thing, I moved out to Arizona several years ago and when I used that my fellow officials looked at me like I was from Mars.

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« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2020, 02:10:07 PM »
Thought it might an Ohio thing, I moved out to Arizona several years ago and when I used that my fellow officials looked at me like I was from Mars.

The KFC thing is common in my area too (not the "no chicken" side because nobody ever does), but it's more of an in-joke amongst the officials. If we ever said that to a coach or captain, they'd look at us like we had two heads.