Kickoff

[CalhounLJ]

Are you looking at the same video as I am?  R puts whistle in his mouth as the B player is crossing the 5 yard line and the A player is still near the 20 yard line.  Just after the R puts the whistle in his mouth the B player stops and looks directly at the R.  That indicates to me that the R has sounded his whistle.  The A player at that point is just inside the 15.  Not sure how that can qualify as "immediate continuing action" if in fact the R knew that the B player stopped as he sounded his whistle with the A player still that far away.  IMHO when we can first hear a whistle on the video is not that important, but when the R first sounded the whistle is.

But the actual question is who has the final "immediate continuing action" call?  The official on the field who sounded the whistle and the R (the same in this case) or replay?

Makes you wonder why the Ole Miss player didn't stop, doesn't it? Maybe A was hoping R would bail him out..

[Kalle]

Makes you wonder why the Ole Miss player didn't stop, doesn't it? Maybe A was hoping R would bail him out..

I don't know what went through the Ole Miss player's head but one alternative is that he's been correctly coached that it almost never hurts you or your team to chase down a loose ball even if it is apparently dead?

[CalhounLJ]

I would agree completely.

[CalhounLJ]

I don't know what went through the Ole Miss player's head but one alternative is that he's been correctly coached that it almost never hurts you or your team to chase down a loose ball even if it is apparently dead?

Why would a player be coached to do such a thing? Because replay might overturn the call on the field and immediate action would apply. So, fall on it. The Auburn player would have been wise to do the same thing. Especially since he knew he touched it. IMO, that’s why he chases after it. The smart thing to do would have been to ignore the whistle and fall in the ball. We wouldn’t be having this conversation if he had.


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[yarnnelg]

First item: Suggesting that the comment of Kiffin making a stupid text is not name calling. Kiffen knows the rules and the decorum of the league. You do your complaining internally and not by social media. You can bet your bottom dollar that Kiffin doesn't pay a dime ....Ole Miss writes that check.

Officials know that decorum as well. Which drives those on the outside ....crazy.

By diving into that comment ....I can only surmise that you are an Ole Miss fan. For those who have never been .....  The most beautiful co-eds on any campus in the nation. There is something in the water over there.

Thus I will expose my allegiance ....My GrandFather coached with Shug Jordan and was responsible for fielding the National Championship team in 1957. He was also on the search committee that brought Pat Dye to Auburn. So, You know that I bleed Orange and Blue.

CalhounLJ .... we still do not have a definitive answer to this. Typical for a Official's meeting, where a rule question expands to a constant debate. There is still a issue of Article 2 and it's statement regarding a touch. Unless there is another rule elsewhere in the book, casebook we don't have any answer.

The SEC Comment appears to be a boiler plate neutral press comment meant to appease and calm the masses. While stating an issue regarding instant replay ....they throw no one under the bus and do not blame anyone nor provide a final comment on the rule or if any was missed. They only say replay did not ask for a review. They ran the tape .....I know too many replay officials and understand that it was reviewed not once but several times. Keep in mind ..... it was following a kick delay to get the Offense and Defense teams on the field plus set up chains. There is no excuse and I bet Instant Replay reported ....at least ....nothing that would change the call.

And I meant every word I said about Ole Miss Coeds ....... Bottle that drinking water, there is something magic there.

[Legacy Zebra]

I think you're the only one who doesn't (or maybe doesn't want to?) have a definitive answer to this question. The touch by B8 starts the clock and means the ball remains alive when it touches the ground in the end zone. The crew incorrectly ruled it dead. To your response about not relying on the chorus of whistles for replay, why would we rely on anything else? The whistle and signal are what kill this play. Where the ball was touched has no bearing on continuing action. Continuing action starts when the ball is declared dead, not when the ball is touched or even when it touches the ground in the end zone.

[NVFOA_Ump]

........ Continuing action starts when the ball is declared dead, not when the ball is touched or even when it touches the ground in the end zone.

And according to the past comments over the years, "Continuing action" stops when it is clear that one or more players have stopped after the officials have killed the play.  IMHO that applies here and does not change the clear and obvious, albeit using UHD replays, that the ball was touched.

[Snapper]

And according to the past comments over the years, "Continuing action" stops when it is clear that one or more players have stopped after the officials have killed the play.  IMHO that applies here and does not change the clear and obvious, albeit using UHD replays, that the ball was touched.

I'm not a Replay expert.  But I think we've already been given an answer in this thread by one or two people who are Replay experts.  And if we're wise, we'll listen to them.

In my view, Replay continues to evolve and be refined.  After the Auburn - Arkansas game (attempted spike play), they gave more guidance regarding "the immediate continuing football action".  To make it even clearer.  They primarily directed that to the Replay Officials and the Coordinators.  But they also talked about it on the national training tape.

They stressed that it's "the immediate continuing football action".  If players in the vicinity of the ball continue to play it, regardless of what other players on the field do, then that's immediate continuing football action.  It is a judgement call and they expect Replay to use good football sense.

I agree with what the Replay experts have already told us about this kick play.  That's a touch of a kick and that's immediate continuing action.

[ref6983]

I'm not a Replay expert.  But I think we've already been given an answer in this thread by one or two people who are Replay experts.  And if we're wise, we'll listen to them.

In my view, Replay continues to evolve and be refined.  After the Auburn - Arkansas game (attempted spike play), they gave more guidance regarding "the immediate continuing football action".  To make it even clearer.  They primarily directed that to the Replay Officials and the Coordinators.  But they also talked about it on the national training tape.

They stressed that it's "the immediate continuing football action".  If players in the vicinity of the ball continue to play it, regardless of what other players on the field do, then that's immediate continuing football action.  It is a judgement call and they expect Replay to use good football sense.

I agree with what the Replay experts have already told us about this kick play.  That's a touch of a kick and that's immediate continuing action.

Yes...the National tape after the Auburn/Arkansas play made it clear that play should have been reversed. Same guidance for immediate continuing action applies here.