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Offline ElvisLives

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Re: Intentional Grounding or Illegal Touching
« Reply #25 on: August 02, 2024, 09:38:39 AM »
1. Doesn't sound right. A pass to a RB or WR behind the line is a legal pass but didn't reach the LOS. Or if the QB is outside the tackles and throws a pass across the LOS that's touched by an ineligible, that's illegal touching of forward pass but the pass itself would be legal. (If I'm not mistaken)

2. Doesn't sound right. If the pass reaches the LOS but no eligible in the area and QB not outside the tackles, that's an illegal pass (IG).

In both of those examples, I qualified the passer as being outside the tackle box.

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Re: Intentional Grounding or Illegal Touching
« Reply #26 on: August 02, 2024, 12:27:03 PM »
I was just replying to his answers which were:

Quote from: CalhounLJ on Yesterday at 06:40:19 PM
1. No. The pass has to reach the line of scrimmage to be legal. if it's touched by an ineligible, it's an IFP.
2. No. If the pass reaches the los, it doesn't matter who touches it, it's a legal forward pass.

For his answer #1, I'm saying a pass does not need to reach the LOS to be legal.
For his answer #2, I'm saying just because the pass reaches the LOS, that doesn't make it legal. 


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Re: Intentional Grounding or Illegal Touching
« Reply #27 on: August 02, 2024, 02:57:17 PM »
I was just replying to his answers which were:

Quote from: CalhounLJ on Yesterday at 06:40:19 PM
1. No. The pass has to reach the line of scrimmage to be legal. if it's touched by an ineligible, it's an IFP.
2. No. If the pass reaches the los, it doesn't matter who touches it, it's a legal forward pass.

For his answer #1, I'm saying a pass does not need to reach the LOS to be legal.
For his answer #2, I'm saying just because the pass reaches the LOS, that doesn't make it legal.


But in both cases he was responding to a very specific set of circumstances based on the questions, his answers were correct. 
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Re: Intentional Grounding or Illegal Touching
« Reply #28 on: August 05, 2024, 09:08:33 AM »
1. Doesn't sound right. A pass to a RB or WR behind the line is a legal pass but didn't reach the LOS. Or if the QB is outside the tackles and throws a pass across the LOS that's touched by an ineligible, that's illegal touching of forward pass but the pass itself would be legal. (If I'm not mistaken)
2. Doesn't sound right. If the pass reaches the LOS but no eligible in the area and QB not outside the tackles, that's an illegal pass (IG).
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Wrong on both counts, in the context of my post. Read the requirements for being able to legally throw the ball away. (7-5-2d EXCEPTION 2)
      1. The passer has been in possession of the ball outside the tackle box at some point between the snap and the pass.
      2. The Pass must REACH THE NEUTRAL Z0NE
      3. The passer is the only player to possess the ball after the snap ends.
If those three conditions are met, then both my statements are true and accurate. Which was the context of the post.

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Re: Intentional Grounding or Illegal Touching
« Reply #29 on: August 05, 2024, 10:20:56 AM »
My fault for any confusion guys, sorry.