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Another down of the day
« on: October 10, 2024, 11:05:09 AM »
This seems to have got lost in the first thread.
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How about another:

Free kick after a safety, A-20, free kick timing (25), 14:58 (1), A=0, B=2.
A10 punts the ball high and deep. At the B-30, B90 raises his right arm above his head and swings it from the right to the left, and then from the left to the right. B90 then throws himself into the upper front body of the onrushing A75 (no contact with, or to, either player's heads). A moment later, B88 makes an invalid fair catch signal and then catches the untouched kicked ball at the B-15 (with no intent or attempt to advance). At the very moment B88 completes the catch, A99 wraps his arms around B88 and non-violently carries him to the ground.

Ruling:

(Bonus points for offering a scenario that would have led to the originating condition of this down.  ;D)
« Last Edit: October 10, 2024, 11:45:37 AM by ElvisLives »

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Re: Another down of the day
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2024, 11:38:32 AM »
Team B 1/10 B-15 (assuming the A-15 is a typo) after team A declines the penalty for the illegal blocking foul. Should team A accept the penalty it would be team B 1/10 B-20. 25, snap in either case. Contact by A99 is legal as B88 did not give a valid fair catch signal.

The previous play was a kickoff caught by team B (remember kids, we are talking about the previous down, so team A in the question was team B then) at about B-1 with the receiver then retreating into the end zone and taking a knee there.

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Re: Another down of the day
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2024, 11:46:59 AM »
(assuming the A-15 is a typo)

What A-15? I don't see no A-15!  ;D

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Re: Another down of the day
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2024, 03:18:27 AM »
How do you get to the 15 on this one? 6-5-3-a Exception puts the ball at B's 25 as a result of B88's invalid signal and subsequent catch. Because of that, I have this at B's 20 after enforcing the penalty for the illegal block.

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Re: Another down of the day
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2024, 06:23:15 AM »
Ah right, I'm terrible at these "fair catches inside the 25" as I've never seen one up here in the North. Yes, you are correct, team A will accept the penalty.

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Re: Another down of the day
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2024, 10:32:30 AM »
Yeah, I was trying to make the point that the penalty for the illegal block is 10-yards, and it is a spot foul, by rule. So, Team A would accept the penalty, to have the ball taken to the B-20, since the natural result of the down would, in fact, be B’s ball at the B-25.
I didn’t write the question as well as I should have, because I didn’t give an actual spot for the foul. Y’all had to ‘assume’ the foul was at the B-30, and we shouldn’t make people guess or assume such facts. Sorry about that.

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Re: Another down of the day
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2024, 02:16:43 PM »
Yeah, I was trying to make the point that the penalty for the illegal block is 10-yards, and it is a spot foul, by rule. So, Team A would accept the penalty, to have the ball taken to the B-20, since the natural result of the down would, in fact, be B’s ball at the B-25.
I didn’t write the question as well as I should have, because I didn’t give an actual spot for the foul. Y’all had to ‘assume’ the foul was at the B-30, and we shouldn’t make people guess or assume such facts. Sorry about that.

No need to apologise. It's getting us into the details of the rule book and we're continuing to learn and get better, which is always great.