Questions of the day for Saturday 1/31

[ElvisLives]

QNCAA1
2/5, B-35, 2:20 (4) and running, A=10, B=14.
A11 receives the snap directly behind the spot of the snap, where he is unable to find an open receiver. Just before he is contacted by opponents, and still directly behind the spot of the snap, A11 throws the ball downfield where the ball lands untouched at the B-15, with no player of either team within 10 yards of the spot where the ball lands (and no eligible Team A player in the path of the flight of the ball). The game clock is stopped at 2:07 (4).
Ruling:


QNCAA2
2/10, B-20, 0:15 (4) and stopped for the “2-minute Timeout,” A=10, B=12.
A11 receives the snap directly behind the spot of the snap, where he is unable to find an open receiver. Just before he is contacted by opponents, and still directly behind the spot of the snap, A11 throws the ball downfield where the ball lands untouched at the B-10, with no player of either team within 10 yards of the spot where the ball lands (and no eligible Team A player in the path of the flight of the ball). The game clock is stopped at 0:09 (4).
Ruling:

[Kalle]

If nobody else wants to take a bite, I will.

I want to hear from an official who has had a play that took 105 seconds from the snap to the ball being dead and the result of the play being 2/10 Also, I think there is some information missing from the questions.

The foul in both cases is the same, intentional grounding to conserve yardage (in 2, you could also argue that the foul is for conserving time, but that does not matter for clock status), which is a loss of down at the spot of the foul. Team B will obviously accept the penalty in both cases. So, the only thing that we will have to account for is the time of the foul as IG is a foul that may result in a 10-second runoff.

In 1, the foul happens before the two-minute timeout, so there is no runoff option.

In 2, the runoff option is available and team B is likely to take it. Team A will equally likely use a timeout, if they have one, to avoid it.

So, rulings:

1) Team A 3/whatever at the spot of the foul, GC snap, 25.
2) Either game over, if team A is out of timeouts, or same as 1), if team A burns a timeout.

[ElvisLives]

Kalle,
Thank you. I can’t find an emoji that shows embarrassment. So, just you’ll just have to imagine my embarrassment. I read those questions through, it seems like, 100 times, and still didn’t catch the impossibility of having the two-minute time-out at 0:15 in the period. I know what happened, though. After I started the question, I decided I wanted a 10-second subtraction scenario, with the possibility of the 10SS ending the game, but I didn’t want a pre-snap foul, which left me with some form of illegal pass to conserve time. I changed the time remaining appropriately, but didn’t coordinate with the pre-snap conditons. Should have just gone with “2/10, B-20, 0:15 (4), A=10, B=12.” And, yeah, I should have addressed the remaining time-out situation, as in “Team A has exhausted their team time outs.” And, finally, I should have indicated the location of the spot of the pass. Something more like:

QNCAA2
2/10, B-20, 0:15 (4) and to start on the snap, A=10, B=12.
A11 receives the snap directly behind the spot of the snap, where he is unable to find an open receiver. Just before he is contacted by opponents, A11, still directly behind the spot of the snap and at the B-25, throws the ball downfield, where it lands at the B-10, with no player of either team within 10-yards of the spot where the ball lands (and no eligible Team A player in the path of flight of the ball). The game clock is stopped at 0:09 (4). Team A has exhausted their team time outs.
Ruling:

There! That should do it. Or should have done it.

What this does, though, is demonstrate the complexity of the rule(s), and all of the things we have to know and process within a very small window of time.

And, I should have addressed the spot of the pass in QNCAA1, as well. And, I should have specified that Team A had exhausted their Team Time Outs, which would have more reasonably triggered starting the game clock on the referee’s signal (albeit for 7 seconds before the 2-min T/O).

I promise to do better. 

[Kalle]

I think we all know how difficult it is to write questions or play situations that are error-free. I've had my share of such mistakes and I've caught others in proofreading stage - and once or twice even caught Rom with a published mistake

[ElvisLives]

I think we all know how difficult it is to write questions or play situations that are error-free. I've had my share of such mistakes and I've caught others in proofreading stage - and once or twice even caught Rom with a published mistake

Thank you, my friend. Hope all is well with you. We had 4” of snow last week (almost all gone, now), and temperatures as low as 9 degrees F. Yes - TEXAS! I swear I’m gonna move to Hawaii…😎

[Kalle]

A bit chilly here, currently at 5F, going down to -10ish during the night. Inside temperatures holding steady at 70F. Would very much prefer something like 30F during the day and 20F during the night, but you don't always get what you wish for...