Free Kick after a fair catch

[ElvisLives]

Hey! FED folks…
In your rules, when there is a Free Kick After a Fair Catch, what happens if there is a foul during the kick (such as clipping) and the kick fails to score? Where is that penalty enforced?

Elvis

[bossman72]

Hey! FED folks…
In your rules, when there is a Free Kick After a Fair Catch, what happens if there is a foul during the kick (such as clipping) and the kick fails to score? Where is that penalty enforced?

Elvis

What would you do on a kickoff?  Do it the same way.

[ElvisLives]

What would you do on a kickoff?  Do it the same way.

Well, not being a FED guy, I can’t say. Honestly, I’m just trying to get ahead of the NCAA for when we get the rule change to allow an uncontested field goal attempt after a fair catch. Not sure if it will be treated as a free kick, or a scrimmage kick, with respect to fouls, etc. I’m hearing scrimmage kick.

[bossman72]

Well, not being a FED guy, I can’t say. Honestly, I’m just trying to get ahead of the NCAA for when we get the rule change to allow an uncontested field goal attempt after a fair catch. Not sure if it will be treated as a free kick, or a scrimmage kick, with respect to fouls, etc. I’m hearing scrimmage kick.

I'm hearing that too, along with them being able to extend the period to do the free kick. 
I'm just bracing for the dumb mechanics they're going to make us do for this play instead of just taking the R and C and putting them under the upright and keeping everyone else in their normal free kick positions.  But that's too simple.

Interesting FED case play for this.  Let's say you choose not to do this and run a play. Then you have a foul that replays the down (say, DPI). Your option to do the free kick is restored since you are replaying the down, and all options that existed before the down are at your disposal.

[Legacy Zebra]

Shaw just posted the rule change draft to RQ. It will be treated like a scrimmage kick.

[ElvisLives]

Shaw just posted the rule change draft to RQ. It will be treated like a scrimmage kick.

Yep. Got it.

[Rob S]

I'm just bracing for the dumb mechanics they're going to make us do for this play instead of just taking the R and C and putting them under the upright and keeping everyone else in their normal free kick positions.  But that's too simple.

Last week, Shaw mentioned in a clinic that they were leaning towards keeping B&F on goal posts, H&L on pylons, S/C/B on restraining lines, and R giving the kicker the ball then hacking it in.

[ElvisLives]

Last week, Shaw mentioned in a clinic that they were leaning towards keeping B&F on goal posts, H&L on pylons, S/C/B on restraining lines, and R giving the kicker the ball then hacking it in.

Once per career, those 8 can handle it. 

[ElvisLives]

Last week, Shaw mentioned in a clinic that they were leaning towards keeping B&F on goal posts, H&L on pylons, S/C/B on restraining lines, and R giving the kicker the ball then hacking it in.

Any mention of clock and game timing? Start on the kick? When legally touched in the field of play?
Any word?

[Kalle]

Let's take the NCAA mechanics discussion to the NCAA forum.

[Ralph Damren]

The NFHS 'stuff' on free kicks on fair catch.......

* Clock, flags, etc treated the same as regular kickoffs other than 

* Officials line up as other free kicks (kickoffs) R & U are deepest (5 man) and for FG attempt under the pipes to make the call 

* Don't forget the set the stakes to establish the free kick NZ. 

ODDs of occurance are less than a one-legged man winning a butt-kicking contest, as the stars have to align.....

- Only viable late in the half/game as team is giving up the ball.

- Kicker needs to be able to reach the pipes

-3 points has to mean something 

PERSONAL NOTE : i'M 80 and have been a football official for 56 of them. I've seen Halley's Comet (once every 76 years) once but NEVER seen a free kick after a fair catch in any game I've worked  .

[ElvisLives]

The NFHS 'stuff' on free kicks on fair catch.......

* Clock, flags, etc treated the same as regular kickoffs other than 

* Officials line up as other free kicks (kickoffs) R & U are deepest (5 man) and for FG attempt under the pipes to make the call 

* Don't forget the set the stakes to establish the free kick NZ. 

ODDs of occurance are less than a one-legged man winning a butt-kicking contest, as the stars have to align.....

- Only viable late in the half/game as team is giving up the ball.

- Kicker needs to be able to reach the pipes

-3 points has to mean something 

PERSONAL NOTE : i'M 80 and have been a football official for 56 of them. I've seen Halley's Comet (once every 76 years) once but NEVER seen a free kick after a fair catch in any game I've worked  .

Ralph,
Thank you. That info answers my questions. Unfortunately, the NCAA appears to have decided on a hybrid Fair Catch Kick. Reportedly, the kick, itself, is made per kickoff rules, but, then, follows scrimmage kick rules. But, no mention of timing. So, I was wondering about the NFHS rule, which you answered. Thank you.