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Substitutions 3-5-2-d
« on: June 23, 2026, 03:14:35 PM »
d. Substitutes who become players (Rule 2-27-9) must remain in the game for
at least one play and replaced players must remain out of the game for at least
one play, except during the interval between periods, after a score, or when a
timeout is charged to a team or to the referee with the exception of a live-ball
out of bounds or an incomplete forward pass (A.R. 3-5-2-III and VII).


I'll admit I haven't been in the habit of watching for this one.  How often do you see it?  I'd expect it's more common in JH and JV, where the guys are figuring where they're supposed to be and when.  Are you enforcing this at all levels of play? 

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Re: Substitutions 3-5-2-d
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2026, 03:22:03 PM »
I'll also admit to not always thinking about this, but as for your question, usually for lower levels no, and for Varsity, it depends - are they trying to be deceptive, or just being kids who don't know who is on the kickoff team? Would be a stretch for me to flag this unless I really thought they were trying to be purposefully confusing.

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Re: Substitutions 3-5-2-d
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2026, 06:41:33 PM »
Years ago - looooong before electronic communications - teams had ‘messengers’ (for lack of a better term) that ran onto the field and called the play in the huddle, then ran back off the field. At some point, the Rules Committee decided that wasn’t a good look for NCAA football, and changed the substitution rule to require a sub who became a player - as defined - to remain in the game for at least one down. After that rule, hand signals became the primary means of communication. That was followed by signs, and combinations of hand signals and signs. As we all know, now, they have electronic communications directly to the players. So, violations of this rule have virtually totally disappeared. If you see technical violations of this rule, it is ALWAYS a case of confused players trying to figure who is supposed to be in the game. We can almost always tell confusion from subterfuge, and we just pass on making any sort of call, that no one except us know exists, anyway.

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Re: Substitutions 3-5-2-d
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2026, 03:07:24 PM »
Thanks for the background on the rule and why it exists.  Would you maybe only consider enforcing it if the offending team is somehow using it to deliberately confuse the opponent?

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Re: Substitutions 3-5-2-d
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2026, 04:35:03 PM »
Thanks for the background on the rule and why it exists.  Would you maybe only consider enforcing it if the offending team is somehow using it to deliberately confuse the opponent?

Of course. But, that would be hard to judge. One scenario I see is Team A sends in an ‘apparent’ sub, and the defense kind of relaxes, then the sub runs off quickly and Team A hurries to snap the ball before Team B re-focuses on the formation and situation in front of them. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. But, I won’t be fooled twice. You’ll get a flag, for certain.