Mouths of Coaches 2010

[stevegarbs]

Last Friday, opposite wing throws a flag for DPI against team on my sideline.  Coach gives the standard, "That guy is missing a heck of a ball game tonight."  I get the call and explanation from my partner, tell the coach that the DB had an arm around the WR's waist the whole time.  Coach cannot believe his player would commit such a transgression.

Two plays later, the same coach comes up to me and says, "Sorry ref, my player just admitted he had him hooked the whole way."

My faith in humanity has been restored, at least until this Friday!

[Etref]

I had a game Saturday where a player punched a player of the other team. I had a flag and was telling the WH what foul I had. He asked me "who did he hit". Before I could say a word the violator said "
I punched 59 on the other team"

Gotta love it.

[txmustang68]

Worked a 7th grade game last night as H.  Home team offense runs an option play.  QB is getting hit, and tosses the ball forward (behind the LOS) to the RB.  Coach "Hey!  He just pitched it forward behind the line of scrimmage!"  Next coach "Can they do that?"

[southarkumpire]

Working a rivalry game, Friday night opener for both schools.  I have visiting sideline. Close game.  Deep pass from my visiting team to endzone on other side of field from my sideline. Both players go up for jump ball. No flag from BJ or LJ on that side.  Incomplete pass...of course my coach wants DPI.  As he runs out on field almost to numbers, I tell him.."Coach..you need to step back!". No response because he is YELLING at the top of his lungs..."Where's the flag???"

Me..."Coach...get back in  your area"
Coach...(again at the top of his lungs where everybody could hear)..."WHERE'S THE F****** FLAG?"

ME....

I go out to tell my WH what he said...we go over to the coach..who is still livid...to explain why he got a USC.  During the conference:

WH: "Good no call from my  BJ coach. NO DPI"
COACH: "Well, whats HIS (me) flag for?"
WH: "YOU..yelling the F word!"
COACH: "Don't I get a warning??"
ME: "No...but I did tell you to get back"
COACH: "That's a bunch of s***!"
WH:   

Coach spent the rest of the game in the locker room...and still couldn't understand why he got booted.

[VALJ]

Last Friday, opposite wing throws a flag for DPI against team on my sideline.  Coach gives the standard, "That guy is missing a heck of a ball game tonight."  I get the call and explanation from my partner, tell the coach that the DB had an arm around the WR's waist the whole time.  Coach cannot believe his player would commit such a transgression.

Two plays later, the same coach comes up to me and says, "Sorry ref, my player just admitted he had him hooked the whole way."

My faith in humanity has been restored, at least until this Friday!

I had one kinda similar a couple years back.  I had a JV game on Thursday with a no-call for a DPI.  The QB threw a fade route, and the defensive back was turning to go with the play when the WR ran up his back.  The A coach of course wanted a PI, but I sent word over via the BJ what happened and why there was no flag. The response was an unhappy (but clean) one with no flag.

I had the varsity game the next night at the other team's school, and after the coach saw me doing my pregame duties the coach made it a point to come over to me and apologize, and tell me he saw exactly what I said happened.  Made my jaw drop.  

[Getting Fat]

" I had a JV game on Thursday with a no-call for a DPI.  The QB threw a fade route, and the defensive back was turning to go with the play when the WR ran up his back.  The A coach of course wanted a PI, but I sent word over via the BJ what happened and why there was no flag. The response was an unhappy (but clean) one with no flag."

You have a BJ for subvarsity?

[Grant - AR]

I know these threads are kind of funny and sometimes make us shake our heads, but I had a first year official tell me today that he has learned a lot just by reading these "Mouths of Coaches" threads.  They are good for teaching too. 

[VALJ]

" I had a JV game on Thursday with a no-call for a DPI.  The QB threw a fade route, and the defensive back was turning to go with the play when the WR ran up his back.  The A coach of course wanted a PI, but I sent word over via the BJ what happened and why there was no flag. The response was an unhappy (but clean) one with no flag."

You have a BJ for subvarsity?

Yep - our association assigns 5 for JV games.  Don't know about middle school, though.

[fencewire]

I know these threads are kind of funny and sometimes make us shake our heads, but I had a first year official tell me today that he has learned a lot just by reading these "Mouths of Coaches" threads.  They are good for teaching too. 

I don't know if it was on this thread or not, but I used one of the comebacks on here in a jr high game the other day.

5 in the backfield on home team, flag down, working HL

being jr high, no real crowd noise, coach on opposite side asks who was it on.

"Someone other than the quarterback?"

the visiting coaches got quite the laugh out of it...   after I explained it to them...

[lawdog]

In my first appearance wearing the white hat Monday night (JV game...)  home team is on offense and has 10 in the huddle and brings in the 11th to a running back position (well inside the 9 yard marks) when they realize they are short.  Plenty of time before the snap, so clearly no penatly.  Visiting coach goes crazy about the 11th man entering after A had broken the huddle.  His comment, "Hey that's illegal substitution he wasn't in the huddle!  They need to have 11 in the huddle!!!" 

[InsideTheStripes]

In my first appearance wearing the white hat Monday night (JV game...)  home team is on offense and has 10 in the huddle and brings in the 11th to a running back position (well inside the 9 yard marks) when they realize they are short.  Plenty of time before the snap, so clearly no penatly.  Visiting coach goes crazy about the 11th man entering after A had broken the huddle.  His comment, "Hey that's illegal substitution he wasn't in the huddle!  They need to have 11 in the huddle!!!" 

There must be something in the water this year.  Earlier this year I had a coach yelling at me about a similar situation with a defensive sub.

[Jackhammer]

Intentional grounding call, QB throws it in the flat and there's not an A-B player or even a C player, for that matter, within 10 yards of the thing.

Coach:  What's the call
Official:  Intentional grounding, coach.
Coach:  How can you call that, it was a timing pattern to my fullback and he didn't get through the line and out to the flat.
Official:  We agree coach, there was no eligible receiver near the pass, it's intentional grounding
Coach:  You can't call that my FB didn't get through the line and it's a timing pattern.  You can't call that, it's a timing pattern.   It's a timing pattern.
Official:  Yes coach we recognize there must be something wrong, it's still a foul.

A continuation....as we marked off the penalty the coach says, what is that the longest penalty in the history of football?

Our HL has a sub-varsity game the next Monday at this coach's school...He walks up and says, "Hi Coach.  My crew sent me down here to finish marking off that penalty from Friday."  He got a good kick out of that one....we'll probably get a playoff recommend. just for the humor.

[younggun]

The other day...

4th down and what ever.... A throws the ball and A-WR pushes off a makes the catch.  for OPI. So 15 from the previous spot and turn over on downs..... A's Coach "They cant have both! They can take the loss of down or the 15 yards, not both!"

[Getting Fat]

younggun - isn't the coach 1/2 right?

PENALTY—Pass interference by Team A: 15 yards from the previous
spot [S33].

[younggun]

younggun - isn't the coach 1/2 right?

PENALTY—Pass interference by Team A: 15 yards from the previous
spot [S33].

Yes, he is half right.... but he still thinks the ball should be his ball.... I think he went on to say that penality is a "Double-Wammy"

[Welpe]

younggun - isn't the coach 1/2 right?

PENALTY—Pass interference by Team A: 15 yards from the previous
spot [S33].

In Federation, OPI is 15 yards from the previous spot AND a loss of down.

[Getting Fat]

Welpe - I figured that might be the case after I posted it, some forethought on my part would've been helpful...

Darned two (three counting professional) sets of rules for the same damned game...

[southarkumpire]

Yep..OPI is basically the worst penalty you can get hit with as far as loss of yards and especially in this case, turnover on downs

[RMR]

Special Thu afternoon edition of Mouths of Fans:

Tue night we had some BUTT-clown daddy in an 8th grade game hollering at us about how we were "cheating the kids" and wondering how we "can sleep at night" as a result of a penalty enforcement that he didn't understand (NFHS rules - dead ball USC on B prior to a try followed by dead ball USC on A, which resulted in A's try being snapped from B16.5)

It was really kinda sad to see someone get so worked up about an 8th grade football game that apparently we had nothing better to do than go out and fk over some 13 yo kids. Eventually one of the assistants for his kid's team had to go over to the fence and explain to him why the enforcement was correct and how much of an BUTT he was making of himself. I'm sure his son was proud.

Oh yeah, religious school too, BTW.

[Etref]

Yep..OPI is basically the worst penalty you can get hit with as far as loss of yards and especially in this case, turnover on downs

It used to be the same in NCAA, but over the years offensive minded coaches have taken over the rules committee and dropped the LOD.....

[Bugolathe]

A continuation....as we marked off the penalty the coach says, what is that the longest penalty in the history of football?

Our HL has a sub-varsity game the next Monday at this coach's school...He walks up and says, "Hi Coach.  My crew sent me down here to finish marking off that penalty from Friday."  He got a good kick out of that one....we'll probably get a playoff recommend. just for the humor.

You seriously think we're getting a vote for that call? 

Jackhammer and I are on the same crew.   

[LarryW60]

JV Game tonight.  First play after the opening kickoff and the runner is tackled with the defender's arm across the neck and chest.  An assistant on my sideline starts screaming for a horsecollar while throwing in the comment, "They changed the rule this year, you can't ignore it!"  I was NOT going to go through a whole game of that crap so I turned around and loudly said, "Coach!  What constitutes a Horse Collar Tackle foul?"  Surprisingly, he did a somewhat decent answer to the question so I replied, "Correct, but the only thing in your description that happened on this tackle was that a tackle was made. No collars were grabbed."  I had blissfull silence from that assistant for the remainder of the game.  Sometimes you just have to nip it in the bud.

[Aussie-Zebra]

Last season I learned from a HC  that a player is automatically ejected for 2 Personal Fouls and he sometimes Refs  

I must say that this and <war stories> are my fav. part of Refstripes.

[beaye1]

Not from a coach, but still funny.  Last night sub varsity game  for center holding.  After marking off the penalty, the kid comes to me a says "but ref I took him down".  I said that is correct, but son you can't do that and that is why there is a flag.  He looks at me and says "Oh" and said he was sorry.  It's always funny when they say it loud enough near their sideline where the coaches hear it and the silence after yelling that it was a bad call.

[Osric Pureheart]

It used to be the same in NCAA, but over the years offensive minded coaches have taken over the rules committee and dropped the LOD.....

I remember reading somewhere that way back in the dim and distant past, OPI in Team B's end zone was a touchback.  Do I recall correctly or am I just making it up?