7 on 7 Practice?

[TexDoc]

These guys are treading on thin ice.  I wonder if the UIL has the testicular fortitude to punish these two programs.

http://www.wfaa.com/news/investigates/Southlake-Trinity-coaches-caught-on-tape-101924458.html

[TXMike]

UIL just needs to do like they did with the summer conditioning programs.  Used to be no coaches allowed.  They realized that was not a good idea and changed the rule.  Same thing here. Let 'em coach!

[504coach]

Get rid of 7 on 7, and go back to kids being kids during the summer.  If they want to meet up at school and throw the football then let them do that.  In my opinion 7 on 7 is a small step above AAU basketball. 

[TexDoc]

504 I'm with you.  I can certainly imagine coaches telling players if they do not play 7 on 7, forget about playing in the fall.  If you need a summer job to help the family, tough.

[Etref]

I am also among those who think 7 on 7 is getting out of hand. Everyone knows the coaches are involved (seemingly except UIL).

[texref]

I agree about changing the rules. Good article by Matt Wixon in todays Dallas Morning News:

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/highschools/topstories/stories/090210dnspowixon.26b960c.html

[JasonTX]

Why does the UIL even have jurisdiction over a coach who is "off-duty" and players who are on their summer break?  Players and coaches should be allowed to participate in any type of league they desire. 

[TexDoc]

Why does the UIL even have jurisdiction over a coach who is "off-duty" and players who are on their summer break?  Players and coaches should be allowed to participate in any type of league they desire. 

I don't agree Jason.  This rule goes way, way back.  What happens is you get coaches that make their kids practice all summer long or not get to play or even make the team.  Kids have families and, if you ask me, should be looking for summer jobs.  Maybe I'm just old school.  Basketball and volleyball would have the coach putting their players on select teams to play year-round.  These are amateur athletes.

[TXMike]

Much rather have them out there with their coaches than with some "wannabe" daddy.  Same arguments against this were made before the change to summer conditioning programs.  Now the coaches are allowed to be there and help and i don't see any bad effects from that. 

You don't want them out there at all.  That ain't gonna happen so might as well make it the best possible experience for them.  That horse done left the barn Hoss!

[JasonTX]

I don't agree Jason.  This rule goes way, way back.  What happens is you get coaches that make their kids practice all summer long or not get to play or even make the team.  Kids have families and, if you ask me, should be looking for summer jobs.  Maybe I'm just old school.  Basketball and volleyball would have the coach putting their players on select teams to play year-round.  These are amateur athletes.

This should not be a UIL issue is all I am saying.  To me it is similar if my job told me what I could and couldn't do "off the clock".  If they aren't being allowed to play when school starts because a kid didn't participate, then that is an issue that happens "on the clock" and the school should be involved at that point.

[TexDoc]

I just think its a slippery slope and you wind up with super powerhouse teams for some sports at very few schools.  But, maybe we already have that issue.  We are in such a competitive society that I can see parents having no problem with this.  I sure wish I could have conditioned for practice all summer rather than bailing hay, working at the hardware store, washing dishes at the restaurant or any of the other crappy summer jobs I had.  Those jobs are what made me realize I wanted to go to college, so I didn't have to do those forever.  It just seems like we are moving away from schools as a place to get an education sometimes and more towards schools that just want to be successful in athletics at any cost. 

[TXMike]

You are not in Mayfield any longer Beaver.  Things are different these days. 

[TexDoc]

So it appears, Mr. Fife.

[TXMike]

"Well, today's eight-year-olds are tomorrow's teenagers. I say this calls for action and now. Nip it in the bud. First sign of youngsters going wrong, you've got to nip it in the bud"

[TexDoc]

I'm impressed.  You even have the lines down!  Keep that bullet in your pocket now.

[blindref757]

I think it would be great to have the real coaches on the sideline to control their kids.  There is very little accountability under the current system.

[TXMike]

Trinity cleared

http://highschoolsportsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/09/district-6-5a-executive-committee-rules.html


District 6-5A Executive Committee rules that Euless Trinity didn't violate any UIL 7-on-7 football rules
  Posted at 4:08 PM on Wed., Sep. 8, 2010
Brandon George / Reporter       
 

 The Hurst-Euless-Bedford   ISD just released a statement saying that the District 6-5A Executive Committee held a hearing at 10 a.m. today concerning WFAA-TV Ch. 8's report last week that alleged that Euless Trinity and Southlake Carroll competed in a 7-on-7 football game over the summer on Carroll's campus in which the coaches were coaching, an act not allowed under UIL rules.

The HEBISD said that the 6-5A DEC ruled in Trinity's favor by a unanimous 8-0 vote that the coaches and school didn't violate any UIL rules pertaining to 7-on-7 football.

Here's the HEBISD statement from today in full:

HEB ISD Did Not Violate UIL Rules


After WFAA aired its story last week, the UIL instructed HEB ISD to conduct an internal investigation and provide information to them and to the District 6-5A Executive Committee (DEC), the local governing body that deals with UIL rules enforcement.
We provided information they requested at a hearing held at 10:00 a.m. today. In an 8-0 decision, the DEC ruled that HEB ISD did not violate any UIL rules.
We are pleased with today's ruling. We have said from day one that we wanted to participate in an official DEC investigation and that we would abide by their decision. We want to thank the DEC members for their work on this matter, and we want to thank the entire HEB community for your continued support.