Author Topic: LSU Fake Field Goal  (Read 26950 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline ckref

  • *
  • Posts: 73
  • FAN REACTION: +4/-1
Re: LSU Fake Field Goal
« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2010, 10:36:56 AM »
CFO bulletin #4, play #8, exception remains when potential kicker leaves after the snap.

Offline TXMike

  • *
  • Posts: 8773
  • FAN REACTION: +229/-269
  • When you quit learning you quit living
Re: LSU Fake Field Goal
« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2010, 10:51:19 AM »
Perhaps another example of a interp/change that is required after the fact.  I would sure like to know how mr adams and nelson would view this change.I wonder if this was the intent of the exception to the dead ball rule.

Offline NVFOA_Ump

  • *
  • Posts: 4180
  • FAN REACTION: +107/-340
  • High School (MA & RI)
    • Massachusetts Independent Football Officials Association
Re: LSU Fake Field Goal
« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2010, 08:54:48 AM »
So based on the following (CFO bulletin #4, play #8) where the holder with a knee down actually passes the ball forward to the "kicker", are we now saying that the only criteria that applies to qualify for the exception is that kicker was in kicking position at the snap?

8. Fourth and 10 at the B-40. Team A lines up in field goal formation, with potential holder A11 at the B-47 and potential kicker A44 in position to attempt the kick. A44 is still in this position when the ball is snapped to A11 who has a knee on the ground. A44 then runs to his right behind A11 who passes the ball which A44 catches at the B-43. He is tackled at the B-25.

RULING: Legal play. By interpretation A44 has satisfied the provisions of the exception to Rule 4-1-3-b as being in position to kick the ball. First and 10 for Team A at the B-25. (4-1-3-b-Exception)
« Last Edit: October 22, 2010, 09:26:14 AM by NVFOA_Ump »
It's easy to get the players, getting 'em to play together, that's the hard part. - Casey Stengel

Offline Atlanta Blue

  • *
  • Posts: 3781
  • FAN REACTION: +160/-71
Re: LSU Fake Field Goal
« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2010, 08:59:05 AM »
So based on the following (CFO bulletin #4, play #8) where the holder with a knee down actually passes the ball forward to the "kicker", are we now saying that the only criteria that applies to qualify for the exceprion is that kicker was in kicking position at the snap?

Basically, yes.  Obviously, you wouldn't let K run 15 yards downfield and allow H to remain on his knee with the ball live.  But if the action is a relatively quick part of a fake FG as K leaves the kicking position, leave it alone.

Offline Welpe

  • *
  • Posts: 1860
  • FAN REACTION: +28/-11
Re: LSU Fake Field Goal
« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2010, 10:45:15 AM »
I can live with that I suppose.