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Offline NTXRef

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Good call?
« on: November 17, 2010, 12:30:18 PM »
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Re: Good call?
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2010, 12:39:53 PM »
Kicking team cannot block until they are eligible to touch the football. It had not gone 10 yards and had not been touched by a Receiving team player. Illegal block and appears to be a good call by the covering official.
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Re: Good call?
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2010, 12:53:17 PM »
I agree, excellent call.   :thumbup

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Re: Good call?
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2010, 01:53:17 PM »
Great call and pretty cool video software.

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Re: Good call?
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2010, 05:16:50 PM »
Agree that we've got to have a flag.  Two illegal "clear-out" blocks well before B is eligible to touch the ball.  Also agree some great video.  On my 22" high def screen in the office I'd swear I can almost read the logo the ball.
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Re: Good call?
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2010, 05:36:30 PM »
I agree, excellent call.   And, yes, technology is great these days.   The video was from the losing team's fan base.  Based on the word going around, I don't think the Jesuit coach still understands the rule, and thinks he was wronged.

I talked to the calling official who said he didn't sleep that night wondering if he got it right.   I assured him that he got it right (IMO). 

Now, for the penalty enforcement.   As good as a call as it was, they enforced 10 yards previous spot and used the "illegal use of hands" signal.   What should they have done?

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Re: Good call?
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2010, 05:41:02 PM »
Blocking too early is only a 5 yarder  "Illegal procedure"

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Re: Good call?
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2010, 05:50:22 PM »
Blocking too early is only a 5 yarder  "Illegal procedure"

We have a winner.   I hate the term "illegal procedure" because we don't have that, but it is the only way to describe the signal.   I told him that he should be proud that they at least got the call right.   Just wanted to point out for the board members, so that we can get both the call and the enforcement right the next  time we see it.

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Re: Good call?
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2010, 05:54:51 PM »
Could say "travelling" but that makes too close to roundball.  

Article on the game and the comment we all knew would be made..."But we have always done it like this before..."

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/high-school/post/_/id/3227/unusual-rule-seals-victory-for-rowlett
Illegal blocking call seals victory for Rowlett
November, 13, 2010 By Travis L. BrownDALLAS -- An illegal blocking call sealed a 35-28 victory for the Rowlett Eagles and negated a chance for Dallas Jesuit to attempt a one-minute comeback Saturday in the first round of the Class 5A Division II playoffs.

Jesuit head coach Bob Wunderlick said the officials explained that his team began blocking Rowlett before the ball traveled 10 yards on an onside kick attempt.

The onside try was kicked straight and slow. Jesuit kicker Jake Oliver proceeded to box out the Rowlett defender. Once the ball passed the necessary 10 yards, he dove on the ball, assuming he had recovered the try for the Rangers.

“We’ve been doing that for 14 years with a great deal of success and nobody has every called us on it,” Wunderlick said. “Maybe it’s a rule. I don’t know about that rule. We didn’t do anything differently. I guess it’s a judgment call and we were pretty fired up and had a few trick plays to try and run at them. That was the call and I’m sure it’s a rule, and so be it.”

Both teams put on an offensive show, with each racking up over 400 yards of offense.

Treyvon Green led Rowlett, rushing for 147 yards and two touchdowns. Logan Brown added 198 yards on 12 catches with two touchdowns. Eagles quarterback Colton Kalmus threw for 322 yards and three touchdowns, completing 80 percent of his passes.

Jesuit moved the ball effectively on its first drive, scoring on a 30-yard run by Christian Franz. Rowlett’s Green countered on the next drive, scoring on a 32-yard run, maneuvering past several defenders to make his way into the end zone.

“The safeties were keying on our hitches and short passes and it was easy to get our run game going,” Green said.

The Eagles took the lead just a few minutes later on a 31-yard pass to Brown on a fade route. Kalmus placed the ball right into Brown’s arms past a diving Jesuit defender.

The Rangers came back at the end of the first on a 3-yard touchdown catch by David Kaplin after missing two field goals on the two previous drives.

Brown caught his second touchdown of the game right before the half on a 15-yard pass giving the Eagles the 21-14 lead.

Rowlett would score two more touchdowns in the third, one on a jump ball that was pulled in by Chris Osborn off a 25-yard pass, extending their lead to 35-14.

Jesuit scored twice more in the fourth, the final with just a minute left off a 12-yard pass to Jake Oliver, but it would not be enough as Rowlett recovered the Rangers second onside try and sealed the bi-district championship for the Eagles.

Rowlett advances to play Mesquite Horn next week in the second round.

“[Advancing to the second round is] huge,” Rowlett head coach Kiff Hardin said. “It’s our third time to do this and our guys just kept on coming tonight and I’m really proud of them. We’ll go to that next round and see what happens.”
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Re: Good call?
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2010, 09:13:34 PM »
“We’ve been doing that for 14 years with a great deal of success and nobody has every called us on it,” Wunderlick said.

Wow; I wish I had a dollar for every time I've heard a coach say that to me over the years.....

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Re: Good call?
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2010, 01:02:40 AM »
Wow; I wish I had a dollar for every time I've heard a coach say that to me over the years.....

Then you wouldn't be posting here. There's no football in Tahiti.

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Re: Good call?
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2010, 03:50:19 PM »
I think the thread title should be changed to Great Call!

I think that gets a +1 on the review.

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Re: Good call?
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2010, 07:41:59 PM »
Blocking too early is only a 5 yarder  "Illegal procedure"

You should never here "illegal procedure" again. By the book, this is illegal blocking by team A during a free kick, and on the mic the referee should say "illegal block by the kicking team. The blocks by the kicking team were made before they were eligible to touch the ball. 5 yard penalty from the previous spot, and rekick."
Now if B recovered the ball, you still have the 5 yard penalty, but it would be tacked on to the DBSpot.

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Re: Good call?
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2010, 08:06:07 PM »
I put it in quotes to keep all you anal-types from jumping my arse.   nAnA

Try explaining the signal to any fan and 50% of the officials.  They get "illegal procedure" signal.  They do not have a clue as to "Signal 19"

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Re: Good call?
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2010, 11:09:17 PM »
You should never here "illegal procedure" again.

Dang, MJT.  He was just answering the question about the signal, not what kind of foul it was.   How do you describe "Signal 19"?

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Re: Good call?
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2010, 07:35:37 AM »
Dang, MJT.  He was just answering the question about the signal, not what kind of foul it was.   How do you describe "Signal 19"?

I was not trying to jump on Mike, as I know he knows that announcement is gone.  tiphat: I tell people the "traveling" signal to describe it, as they all know that from BB.

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Re: Good call?
« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2010, 07:39:10 AM »
Dang, MJT.  He was just answering the question about the signal, not what kind of foul it was.   How do you describe "Signal 19"?

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Re: Good call?
« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2010, 08:21:09 AM »
That sounds dirty.......

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Re: Good call?
« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2010, 10:06:55 AM »
Then you wouldn't be posting here. There's no football in Tahiti.

Not sure what that means KB.

Are you suggesting everything gets interpreted/called the same way by everybody in the NCAA?

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Re: Good call?
« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2010, 10:21:41 AM »
I believe he is assuming you would use the million dollars you got from "A dollar every time..." and would have gone to Tahiti

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Re: Good call?
« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2010, 08:21:00 PM »
I believe he is assuming you would use the million dollars you got from "A dollar every time..." and would have gone to Tahiti

Would never go to Tahiti....no football!

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Re: Good call?
« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2010, 01:04:07 AM »
OK, then you'd still be posting here, but from Hawaii :)