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PSKE in Big XII Champ Game
« on: December 06, 2010, 01:08:16 PM »
Anyone happen to be at the game or perhaps have had any discussions with guys who worked the game (I think 4 were from Dallas)?
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Re: PSKE in Big XII Champ Game
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2010, 01:21:44 PM »
Anyone happen to be at the game or perhaps have had any discussions with guys who worked the game (I think 4 were from Dallas)?
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Watched the clip and, assuming the foul occurred ahead of the catch at the 11 yd line (end of kick), it looks like they got it right.  Not sure if you're just questioning the explanation...a little "awkward".

Am I missing something - as I'm under the assumption that the Fed and NCAA PSK rules are the same?   

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Re: PSKE in Big XII Champ Game
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2010, 01:23:38 PM »
This is on RG's site:

One of the conditions for a foul by Team B to be considered for PSK enforcement is that the foul occur during the kick (before it is caught or recovered).  However, However, the foul must also occur 3 or more yards beyond the neutral zone to qualify for the enforcement (10-2-3).  Fouls in the neutral zone or behind it do not qualify for PSK enforcement.  (NOTE: Although fouling player was announced as #23, it was later determined the foul was actually on #32.  In this clip, B32 is the defender who falls down on the hashmark @ the B-42) 

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Re: PSKE in Big XII Champ Game
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2010, 02:03:44 PM »
This is on RG's site:

One of the conditions for a foul by Team B to be considered for PSK enforcement is that the foul occur during the kick (before it is caught or recovered).  However, However, the foul must also occur 3 or more yards beyond the neutral zone to qualify for the enforcement (10-2-3).  Fouls in the neutral zone or behind it do not qualify for PSK enforcement. 

Thanks for the clarification.  This IS different than HS.  FED rules include fouls (anywhere) "beyond the neutral zone" as PSK enforcement.  But there must have been some disagreement about whether the foul occured less than 3 yds downfield?

Is that your take?

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Re: PSKE in Big XII Champ Game
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2010, 02:25:22 PM »
At the time I assumed that the conversation (involving about 4 officials on the far sideline) was about the location and timing of the foul.  I think the R initially thought it was a hold during the runback when he made his initial announcement.  He was then corrected by someone (maybe the calling official) on his crew.  Good work by the crew.  

I also assumed it was the defense holding a gunner just beyond the 3 yard belt.

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Re: PSKE in Big XII Champ Game
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2010, 02:29:34 PM »
The only foul I potentially saw in this video by #32 was where he (A32) was laying on the hash in the neutral zone and a team B player appears to go down as he goes by A32.  That leads me to believe he did an ankle grab which got spotted.  I was hoping someone who saw it live might have a better idea of what 32 did and where.  The announcement by the R may have been shortened in the interest of communicating it quickly but the fact that the foul happened during the kick is not, by itself, sufficent reasson to go to PSK enforcement.