Possible IW in FCS semi Villanova @ Eastern

[Ftblref]

I think it was 4th qtr, Villanova punted to Eastern, returner dives for ball, muffs it, scramble Villanova recovers.  I thought I heard a whistle by the B during the loose ball and they gave the ball to Eastern, but right away they went to review and gave the ball correctly to Villanova. Sorry i don't have video.
My question is, if they would have ruled IW can that be reviewed??  Thanks.

[RedTD]

Did not see the play but: What would be reviewable is the touching by the receiver. i.e. did he touch it in his diving attempt to catch it. If he did then it would be VUs ball.  Who recovers and IWs are not reviewable in this situation.

[twref]

IW during the pile scrum for a fumble would be highly unlikely.  Just killing the clock with progress/play completed

[TXMike]

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[Ftblref]

Thanks, I guess it was the F that blew it......no pun intended. 

[AlUpstateNY]

One thing is for certain, that is the ugliest and most difficult to see on field that has ever been created.  The blue Boise State field was bad enough, but this field is ridiculous.

[Birddog]

On that play no signal or ruling was never given as far as I could tell.  Then they went replay and said was the kicking teams ball.  Pretty strange.

[ljudge]

Makes sense it was Villanova's ball.  Since the immediate action following the whistle was a recovery it would be the kicking team's ball.

[RedTD]

In this situation there is no immediate (continuing action) on this play. That is for fumbles or scoring plays. The only part that is reviewable is whether the receiver touched the ball. I'm not sure how three covering officials did not see the muff by EW(or the recovery by V). Replay does not normally get involved in ruling on who recovers. It may be the Replay official whispered in the R's ear.

I can't hear a whistle - but then my wife says I'm half deaf so that doesn't prove anything.

[NVFOA_Ump]

Don't see any problem here.  When 1st tweet blows K is already on the loose ball (although very close), even though one or more officials seemed to think R had possession of the ball.  Also, this is without question a continuing action play under the replay rules for dead ball / loose ball situations:

12-3-3:  Dead Ball and Loose Ball  d. Live ball ruled dead in possession of a ball carrier when the clear recovery of a loose ball occurs in the immediate continuing action after the loose ball.

[RedTD]

Don't see any problem here.  When 1st tweet blows K is already on the loose ball (although very close), even though one or more officials seemed to think R had possession of the ball.  Also, this is without question a continuing action play under the replay rules for dead ball / loose ball situations:

12-3-3:  Dead Ball and Loose Ball  d. Live ball ruled dead in possession of a ball carrier when the clear recovery of a loose ball occurs in the immediate continuing action after the loose ball.

Be careful here. In this play the on-field officials did not rule the play dead with the ball in possession of a ball carrier(the receiver) - if they did they were looking at a different ball game. We only worry about "immediate continuing action" when there is a fumble (not the case here) or a runner ruled down with a "score in the immediate continuing action". This recovery was of a clear muff, at least to me it was a clear muff, and the only input Replay has is whether the receiver touched the ball.

[NVFOA_Ump]

Be careful here. In this play the on-field officials did not rule the play dead with the ball in possession of a ball carrier(the receiver) - if they did they were looking at a different ball game. We only worry about "immediate continuing action" when there is a fumble (not the case here) or a runner ruled down with a "score in the immediate continuing action". This recovery was of a clear muff, at least to me it was a clear muff, and the only input Replay has is whether the receiver touched the ball.

Don't see any problem - whistle clearly blew (the first tweet) when an official thought R had the ball.  That triggers the DB loose ball section of review since there is no question that at least one official thought R had possession.  I don't agree that the "only input Replay has is whether the receiver touched the ball."   12-3-3-d easily fits here since whoever blew the early tweet thought that R had possession, therefore he had to have a "ball carrier", and the resulting action was the " ..... clear recovery of a loose ball occurs in the immediate continuing action after the loose ball" part.

IMO replay was reviewing to see if in fact R was down before the loose ball - the obvious answer was no, so they got it right.

[RedTD]

If the covering official blew his whistle because he thought the R had completed the catch and ruled him down I agree. I guess I just don't see how he could have made that ruling - but if that is what he did then I agree with you. The R could have made it clearer if he had announced "the ruling on the field is a catch and runner down prior to the ball coming loose".
Since it is FCS he was probably not used to making that announcement for the booth's benefit.

[110]

I'm more than a little alarmed that a game of this calibre/importance had a chocolate whistle at all.