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Changes in the Pac-10
« on: February 11, 2011, 12:16:42 PM »
Here is some interesting news from the Pac-10. A very good choice in bringing Mike Pereria in on a interim basis

http://http://www.pac-10.org/News/tabid/863/Article/220365/pac-10-restructures-football-officiating-program.aspx

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Re: Changes in the Pac-10
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2011, 09:07:46 PM »
I don't like the idea a consultant taking over, even in an interim capacity, for a guy he *most likely* recommended get the boot. I would like to hear from the outgoing guy about this whole thing.

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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2011, 11:50:55 PM »
Interesting that an "interim" guy(albeit one with great credentials)  will set up a "new structure", determine "best practices", commit to "new resources" and then turn it over to someone else to implement/manage. Odd ????

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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2011, 12:10:11 AM »
Interesting that an "interim" guy(albeit one with great credentials)  will set up a "new structure", determine "best practices", commit to "new resources" and then turn it over to someone else to implement/manage. Odd ????

A Mr Fixit - is anything broken?

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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2011, 08:22:06 AM »
With the addition of replay most of the conferences supervisors do not have the experience or the manpower to deal with and train their replay staff. The move in college football is to bring in supervisors with NFL experience. Ken Rivera, supervisor of the MWC stated at the national meeting in Chicago, that the reason the MWC align itself with the Big 12 conference is that the Big 12 had the resources and manpower to just work with replay. The Big 12 has been putting on a clinic for the last four years that only deals with replay. Dean Blandino formerly of the NFL is the main instructor. In a survey this year the college coaches turn down the propose rule change to go to the NFL format for replay. The vast majority wants to keep it as it is.

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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2011, 08:44:46 AM »
With the addition of replay most of the conferences supervisors do not have the experience or the manpower to deal with and train their replay staff. The move in college football is to bring in supervisors with NFL experience. Ken Rivera, supervisor of the MWC stated at the national meeting in Chicago, that the reason the MWC align itself with the Big 12 conference is that the Big 12 had the resources and manpower to just work with replay. The Big 12 has been putting on a clinic for the last four years that only deals with replay. Dean Blandino formerly of the NFL is the main instructor. In a survey this year the college coaches turn down the propose rule change to go to the NFL format for replay. The vast majority wants to keep it as it is.

And don't be surprised if the NFL moves toward the NCAA system, i.e., RO in the booth, reviewing every play and making decisions. Someday.

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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2011, 10:00:10 AM »
And don't be surprised if the NFL moves toward the NCAA system, i.e., RO in the booth, reviewing every play and making decisions. Someday.

Don't count on it.  The NFL stands by the fact that the referee makes the final decision, NOT the replay official.

Could the NFL move to a RO notification system instead of a challenge system (as they do in the last 2 minutes of each half)?  That is a possibility.  But don't expect the NFL to move the final say away from the referee.

If the NCAA could handle the cost/logistics of replay monitors on every sideline as does the NFL (one on each sideline in the NFL), I would think we would see them move to a similar system of the referee having the final call.  The replay booth could still review every play and notify the referee when a call should be reviewed, but let the referee have the final say, not a retired official in the booth.

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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2011, 11:56:16 AM »
Don't count on it.  The NFL stands by the fact that the referee makes the final decision, NOT the replay official.

Could the NFL move to a RO notification system instead of a challenge system (as they do in the last 2 minutes of each half)?  That is a possibility.  But don't expect the NFL to move the final say away from the referee.

If the NCAA could handle the cost/logistics of replay monitors on every sideline as does the NFL (one on each sideline in the NFL), I would think we would see them move to a similar system of the referee having the final call.  The replay booth could still review every play and notify the referee when a call should be reviewed, but let the referee have the final say, not a retired official in the booth.

That would be a good blend of the two systems. I know the NFL coaches ain't so happy about having to initiate reviews. Having the RO make the call in the booth would be OK if ALL ROs were all as atuned to the rules as on-field guys, but not all are. And the current NCAA ideology of keeping the RO separate from the crews really isn't as haelthy of a relationship as ADs and administrators think. So, yeah, an RO reviewing every play and initiating stoppages, but the on-field guys making the final call may the best for both levels. 

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Re: Changes in the Pac-10
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2011, 07:44:39 AM »
The reason the colleges don't have the R make the finally decision is just the cost of the extra equipment in the own field monitor.

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« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2011, 01:25:36 PM »
Heard today PAC-12 offered positions to 12 current Big XII officials.

Any truth?

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« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2011, 04:15:46 PM »
I'm not sure of the exact number but there is truth to your statement. The Big 12 had already put there crews together so I'm sure there will be significant change there followed by the MWC and maybe even the WAC. there will certainly be a lot of new faces in new places when the dust settles. Periera's impact is already being felt.

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Re: Changes in the Pac-10
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2011, 11:42:26 AM »
With new hires, does this mean existing Pac-10 guys were let go, or were new officials added to cover the games for Utah and Colorado?

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« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2011, 01:11:45 PM »
With new hires, does this mean existing Pac-10 guys were let go, or were new officials added to cover the games for Utah and Colorado?

Both. A perception, if not reality, of sub-standard performance in the entire program led to everything that has happened in the PAC 10/12. Pereira was hired in mid-season to evaluate and make recommendations to improve the program. Those recommendations included some tough decisions regarding all personel, from coordinator to replay. The coordinator and a substantial number of on-field and replay guys are casualties, including the replay 'leader.' Some on-field guys are being moved to replay, and some Rs may be moved to other positions. A number of on-field guys have been hired out of the Big 12/MWC program, upsetting that cart a little. Look for more hires to the PAC 12; but, from where, who knows? These hires are all to fill the need for another crew due to expansion, and fill voids caused by 'turnover.' The grading system has been scrapped, and a new group of active on-field NFL guys will review each on-field position during the season. If you think you've seen NFL influence in other conferences - you ain't seen nothin' yet. Not sayin' that's bad or good - just a fact (probably more good than bad). Don't look for MP to remain permanently, but who knows how long he'll be in place?
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Re: Changes in the Pac-10
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2011, 03:20:44 PM »


http://www.buildingthedam.com/2011/3/3/2027585/pac-12-shakes-up-football-officiating

Pac-12 Shakes Up Football Officiating
 by AndyPanda on Mar 3, 2011 9:50 AM PST in NCAA Football

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New Pac-12 interim coordinator of officiating Mike Pereira has announced a number of changes, including the removal of 11 officials from the field, and the reassignment of a couple of others.

Last Month, Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott replaced Dave Cutaia, who had been coordinator of officiating for the last 3 years, with Pereira, who was formerly the NFL's vice president of officiating, and served last season as an on-air NFL rules analyst for FOX. Pereira was originally hired by the conference last October as an officiating consultant.

Cutaia, who was an official for 24 years before, had requested to step down from his coordinator role. Translation: Cutaia requested to be allowed to quit before being fired.

Wednesday, Pereira announced the removal of 11 officials who worked games last year, and the hiring of 16 new officials. The new faces were hired away from the Big 12, Mountain West and WAC to replace those who were dismissed, and one who retired.

Two referees (the "white hat" crew chiefs) were also moved to other positions.

Pereira said his review of officiating made it clear that change was needed in a conference that has earned a reputation for officiating problems and errors in recent seasons.

"I certainly did not think that for a geographic area like the West Coast that can draw from a lot of officials, I certainly didn't think it was at the level that it could be," Pereira said. "I'm not saying it was horrible, but it was not at the level that it deserved to be and that this conference deserves to have."

Scott had previously indicated he wants a "crispness" on the field, and is looking for upgrades in training and the use of technology, and policies developed for accountability and response to controversy.




The conference didn't name those that won't be back, but that will become apparent from the box scores once the season starts.

"We felt like these 16 were better than the 11 that did not have their contracts renewed," Pereira said.

The addition of 16 officials will give the new Pac-12 a total of 49, forming seven seven-man crews. An additional crew was needed with the conference expanding from 10 to 12 teams when Colorado and Utah join this fall.

Officials make roughly $1,400 per game on average in BCS conferences, but Pereira said the new officials weren't offered raises to come to the Pac-12. "Many were from Utah and Colorado. and they looked at this as an emerging conference, going from 10 to 12 teams, plus a championship game, and a new TV contract."

Pereira did note that some of the officials who won't be back on the field will be used as assistants in the replay booth, indicating that in at least some cases, the changes were about physical ability in advancing years, not necessarily rules and judgment.

"This is a huge culture change, and there has not been this type of turnover in officials probably in a long time," Pereira said. "It's part of a new accountability, and a new emphasis on training that I think is good for officiating, period."

Pereira also announced that the conference is hiring seven supervisors, who will oversee each of the seven officiating positions (referee, umpire, linesman, line judge, back judge, field judge, side judge), as well as eighth one for the replay booth. Essentially, these will be position specialists.

Six of the supervisors are existing NFL officials, who during the week will work with the Pac-12. They will conduct conference calls with the officials they are overseeing, and work to create training videos. Pereira said the emphasis will be on training to improve officiating each week.
"This concept of having coordinators for each position has never been used before in any of the college conferences," Pereira said.

Previously, in addition to the coordinator, the conference only had a couple of trainers, and people who evaluated each game.

Pereira also said officials will be evaluated not just on the accuracy and consistency of their calls, but also aspects such as communication, professionalism, fitness, and rules knowledge.

"All of those things will be taken into account when we evaluate the performance of an official at the end of the season," Pereira said.

One change that would help would be better communications, ranging from more detailed explanations, and in-stadium replay of reviewed calls. In too many cases, the loss of control of games is as much a product of uncertainty over decisions that are not obvious as it is about the errors.

A number of Pac-12 officials, including some of the new ones, will work spring practices and spring games around the conference, providing more opportunities for evaluation and training. There will also be other officials working spring practices and games. These officials will be in the pool of applicants, individuals Pereira described at "the next-level guys that we think will be future Pac-12 officials."

To support the stated goal of providing training, the conference is also building an officiating command center in the league office in Walnut Creek, CA.

Pereira notes that the other BCS conferences already have such resources, and said that the Pac-12 is now "coming into the modern era. We'll be able to track every game as it happens, and cut and sort plays to make immediate training tapes."

This alone should over time make a big improvement, and illustrates yet another area where former commissioner Tom Hansen had allowed to conference to fall behind.

A sound training program should help; after all, you can't really expect top quality work when adequate training and tools (the technology) aren't available.

Pereira will continue to work for the conference thru the coming season, but the conference will begin the search to hire a new permanent coordinator of football officiating by later this spring.

"Our goal as we expanded the conference was to have the best officiating program in the country and just a new, fresh look moving forward," Pereira concluded.


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Re: Changes in the Pac-10
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2011, 09:39:37 PM »
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Six of the supervisors are existing NFL officials, who during the week will work with the Pac-12.
Really?  And this surprises who?

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« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2011, 07:45:36 AM »
This is no suprise. The Big XII have been doing this since Walt Anderson became supervisor. Four years ago the replay clinic for replay was done at a separate place and date from the clinic for officials. The first two years only Big XII RO attended the clinic. The clinic was open to anyone that paid the clinic fee and their own expenses. Last year, the MW, MAC and the Big X ROs were in attendance. Just about all of the ROs from the Big X stated that they have never been to a replay clinic that was as detailed as the Big XII replay clinic. This year they will meet in Denver around April 15.