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Offline blindref757

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TASO Equipment Certification Cards?
« on: August 10, 2011, 10:43:48 PM »
A couple of questions about them.

1.  Where are they?
2.  Are we using them for scrimmages across the state?
3.  Are they going to be available for download so that we can print off a few to carry on Thursday?

Offline backjudge85

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Re: TASO Equipment Certification Cards?
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2011, 11:33:55 PM »
1.  They just arrived in the TASO office from the printer
2.  We are NOT using them for scrimmages.
3.  A template will be made available to each chapter to post on their website and also on the TASO website.

The TASO office will distribute the cards to the chapter secretaries.

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Re: TASO Equipment Certification Cards?
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2011, 08:24:59 AM »
Can you post the template?

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Re: TASO Equipment Certification Cards?
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2011, 03:27:40 PM »
1.  They just arrived in the TASO office from the printer
2.  We are NOT using them for scrimmages.
3.  A template will be made available to each chapter to post on their website and also on the TASO website.

The TASO office will distribute the cards to the chapter secretaries.

Thanks!

Offline Joe Stack

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Re: TASO Equipment Certification Cards?
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2011, 05:26:31 PM »
What I want to know is how am I supposed to keep up with these? Put them in my pocket? Great -- they'll be soaked and smudged. Let's say I have 3 subvar games needing 6 documents. 3 of the coaches don't have theirs ready, so I have to know how many to take out on the field. Finally, who, out of the 3, 4, or 5 officials assigned has this responsibility?

Offline williebe

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Re: TASO Equipment Certification Cards?
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2011, 06:00:22 PM »
i bet you get your pay sheet to the proper people so why should this be a tought thing to do. it keeps us out of trouble by being in a court room.

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Re: TASO Equipment Certification Cards?
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2011, 07:39:30 PM »
This appears to be another solution in search of a problem.

Offline rsquare

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Re: TASO Equipment Certification Cards?
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2011, 08:53:30 PM »
Downloaded form
Used them on my 2 scrimmages this week
Houston Chapter
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Offline copedaddy

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Re: TASO Equipment Certification Cards?
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2011, 08:29:09 AM »
Did you find them on the TASO site? Where???

Offline Williams

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Re: TASO Equipment Certification Cards?
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2011, 09:28:33 AM »
I heard:  the varsity cards are in the process of being shipped to each chapter and there will be a different card for SV that has 3 games on each side.

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Re: TASO Equipment Certification Cards?
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2011, 10:04:10 AM »
This appears to be another solution in search of a problem.

Yep!

Offline TXMike

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Re: TASO Equipment Certification Cards?
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2011, 10:35:05 AM »
Downloaded form
Used them on my 2 scrimmages this week
Houston Chapter
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Why would you use at scrimages?

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Re: TASO Equipment Certification Cards?
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2011, 10:45:12 AM »
The same thing happens in a scrimmage that happens in a game, so why not? We used them in our chapter, Pecan Valley, in all the scrimmages we covered this weekend.

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Re: TASO Equipment Certification Cards?
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2011, 10:53:55 AM »
Why we are doing the cards?
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Re: TASO Equipment Certification Cards?
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2011, 12:21:34 PM »
Good idea Cover you a...........

Offline TXMike

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Re: TASO Equipment Certification Cards?
« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2011, 12:28:23 PM »
The rule says for "games".

Hopefully some of our lawyer brethren will chime in and help folks understand just how insignificant this little form will be when it comes time for legal action.  If anyone is sleeping better because they got this form signed you are just fooling yourself.

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Re: TASO Equipment Certification Cards?
« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2011, 07:30:33 PM »
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i bet you get your pay sheet to the proper people so why should this be a tought thing to do. it keeps us out of trouble by being in a court room.

Its hard to respond to stupid comments, but I'll try:

1. I don't have 4-6 pay sheets at one game.
2. I've been officiating something in Texas since 1988 and at almost every game site (probably 1500+ at this point), I have filled one form out for the school and given it to them. In the rare cases I get a copy, its small enough to fold up and put away. Other places, I either got a check there or cash on the barrel-head.
3. I go to ONE person to fill out a sheet -- even if it takes talking to 3 or 4 to find out who that person is, but I don't have to get paperwork from those 3-4, and I certainly don't HAVE to keep up with what I get.
4. As a 10+ year litigation attorney, I can tell you that failure for the official to collect this sheet would not lead to any lawsuit. I know of no such lawsuit in Texas ever being filed, and Texas law would not look favorably on one.

This is another one of those deals that UIL wants done but doesn't want to do it, or put another way, doesn't want to HACK off the coaches in doing it, so they let the officials do the grunt work and be the fall guy. I'm sick and tired of this crap -- i.e. being told that UIL wants uniform rules, bench decorum rules, and all sorts of other things enforced but when a report is made outlining abuse of the rules, little or nothing is done. Take the San Antonio lawsuit and the events that lead to it: were the coaches involved sanctioned in any way by the UIL for being on the field? I don't know, but I would be shocked if they were.

This whole thing is stupid. Why can't the UIL require coaches to go online before every game and submit a certification? OR, better yet, certify at the beginning of the season that in all games players will be properly equipped? Your assumption that this will keep us out of court, even if correct, doesn't speak to the issue of there being MUCH better ways to accomplish the same thing.

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Re: TASO Equipment Certification Cards?
« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2011, 09:20:22 PM »
Right on  yEs:
I just can't believe wht the schools can't certify by e-mail, computer of fax to Big Brother before contests :bOW

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Re: TASO Equipment Certification Cards?
« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2011, 09:25:57 PM »
This is a NCAA rule, not just a UIL thing, major college conferences have to do sometype of paperwork, either way I'm just ready to be on the field calling games. Hopefully others feel this way. Good luck everyone.

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Re: TASO Equipment Certification Cards?
« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2011, 12:41:00 PM »
I haven't heard a peep about having to do this for sub-varsity games.  I'll be sure to bring this up at our next meeting.

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Re: TASO Equipment Certification Cards?
« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2011, 01:18:01 AM »
I haven't heard a peep about having to do this for sub-varsity games.  I'll be sure to bring this up at our next meeting.

Your district rep should address (or should have) this at your district meeting.  We were informed that all levels must have a card signed.

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Re: TASO Equipment Certification Cards?
« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2011, 07:45:48 AM »
Ah, that makes sense then. I missed the district meeting but will be attending the makeup.

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Re: TASO Equipment Certification Cards?
« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2011, 07:49:42 AM »
This is the card....for now....  No guarantee that UIL will not come up with something else they will require be used but in the absence of anything from them...this is what we are going with



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Re: TASO Equipment Certification Cards?
« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2011, 01:45:31 PM »
I notice that only a TASO logo appears on that card. Further proof that UIL is forcing us to fall on the sword "for the good of the game?" You know by about the third game of the season, coaches are going to be sick of these and stop having them ready. Then, when we have to hound them for it, they see that logo and think "Oh great, here go the OFFICIALS with their stupid power trips again...making me do more work to satisfy their ridiculous demands!"

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Re: TASO Equipment Certification Cards?
« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2011, 01:59:08 PM »
If the word TASO becomes an issue, there is a form on the UIL website as well that is for the coaches to sign.