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Offline Curious

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HCT - NCAA
« on: September 16, 2011, 09:50:18 AM »
The post below appeared in the NFHS section in, I guess, an attempt to promote an argument against the HCT rule (and it's effect on player safety).

Can you NCAA guys tell me if these NCAA interpretations are accurate??????

Thanks.

"Here are more examples of HC-like sitautions and the difference between NFHS and NCAA

Runner goes up the middle and is grabbed by a DT near the LOS by the collar and pulled backward immediately
NFHS - 15 yard foul
NCAA - good tackle

Runner in the clear near the sideline is grabbed from behind by the collar.  The defender runs with him for 5 yards and then pulls him to the ground.
NFHS - 15 yard foul
NCAA - good tackle

Runner in the clear near the sideline is grabbed from the side by the collar.  The defender immediately pulls him forward to the ground.
NFHS - 15 yard foul
NCAA - good tackle

I have probably seen 10-15 horse collar fouls called in my HS games the past 3 years.  I think most of them were correct by rule.  Only 2 or 3 of them would have been horse collar fouls in other rule sets and actually had a danger element to them."

Offline mishatx

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Re: HCT - NCAA
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2011, 10:14:12 AM »
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Horse Collar Tackle
ARTICLE 15. All players are prohibited from grabbing the inside back collar of
the shoulder pads or jersey, or the inside collar of the side of the shoulder pads
or jersey, and immediately pulling the ball carrier down. This does not apply
to a ball carrier, including a potential passer, who is inside the tackle box (Rule
2-34). Note that the tackle box disintegrates when the ball leaves it.

I'd have to see the third example, but from the sound of it, it could be a valid call for horse collar.  The other two are no foul.

Offline fencewire

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Re: HCT - NCAA
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2011, 11:34:16 AM »
example 4

Runner in the clear near the sideline is grabbed from behind by the collar.  The defender pulls him back slightly buckling the knees but the runner breaks free and falls forward 5 yards in advance of the pull.

so... there is an immediate pull back and down so that the knees buckle, but the runner himself doesn't go down in the same direction as the "pull", he is either strong enough or agile enough to break free.


NFHS - ?
NCAA - ?

Offline TXMike

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Re: HCT - NCAA
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2011, 02:59:24 PM »
No flag unless they tweak the language of the rule

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Re: HCT - NCAA
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2011, 08:23:49 AM »
No flag unless they tweak the language of the rule

TX, are you answering fencewire's question or the OP?

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Re: HCT - NCAA
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2011, 02:48:26 PM »
Fencewire