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Offline williebe

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Re: Is this new?
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2011, 02:06:38 PM »
Im just wondering if this is a new type of evualation or has it always been on the website?

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Re: Is this new?
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2011, 02:09:54 PM »
Are you kidding me?  You're going to let fans, players and family members do evaluations on officials?  Who is going to waste their time reading that garbage?

And the questions are stated very negatively. 

This has to be the worst evaluation form I've ever seen.

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Re: Is this new?
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2011, 02:11:53 PM »
I agree im still laughing about it. LOL LOL LOL Oh well

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Re: Is this new?
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2011, 02:13:35 PM »
Tex doc beat me to the punch on the negative writing of the questions.

Official did not appear to be physically fit. 
Official did not involve game administrators when needed.
Official did not wear proper uniform.
Official did not arrive on site at proper time.
Official did not listen to questions or concerns from coaches/team captains.
Official did not hustle throughout contest.
Official could not keep up with the pace of the contest.

Offline DallasLJ

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Re: Is this new?
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2011, 02:17:35 PM »
This is a worthless evaluation.  Coaches do not understand it.  Obviously a very slanted form.  How can one interpret an evaluation that says agrees that the officials do not know the rules, and then give them a grade of A+ and comment that they worked a great game.

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Re: Is this new?
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2011, 02:20:47 PM »
Tex doc beat me to the punch on the negative writing of the questions.

Official did not appear to be physically fit. 
Official did not involve game administrators when needed.
Official did not wear proper uniform.
Official did not arrive on site at proper time.
Official did not listen to questions or concerns from coaches/team captains.
Official did not hustle throughout contest.
Official could not keep up with the pace of the contest.

We barely put any credence into what a coach says about these topics.  And now we are going to entertain idiot comments and grades from fans, parents and family members?  Who is the complete dumba$$ that came up with this garbage?  Welpe is right, it is so stupid that it is funny!

The best one, "officials did not know the rules."  Um, I don't know anyone in the stands and very few on the sidelines that do know the rules.

I expect now to be able, as an official, to grade coaches, players, fans, parents, family members, concession stand attendants, announcers, statisticians, administrators, teacher, cheerleaders, mascots, timers, police officers, blah, blah, blah.

What does the UIL really plan on doing with something like this?  Calling an official to Austin because Jim Bob Jr's drunk uncle took exception to a flag thrown on him? 

Simply unreal.
« Last Edit: September 20, 2011, 02:26:48 PM by TexDoc »

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Re: Is this new?
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2011, 02:24:12 PM »
So who came up with this: TT, Dr. B or Ornery?

I'm sure we can come up with a few additional questions for this that are equally germane:

"Official spits when he talks."

"Official smells of elderberries."

"Official granted a sufficient number of make-up calls."

"Official obviously never played the game."

"Official last week did not make a similar call."


« Last Edit: September 20, 2011, 02:28:02 PM by Welpe »

Offline williebe

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Re: Is this new?
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2011, 02:25:35 PM »
Well I'm getting ALL my friends to send in evuals on how awesome me and my crew are.  LOL But yes this is asinine, a waste of time, and of course look who came up with it all. Is Manor Drive the state nut house????

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Re: Is this new?
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2011, 02:26:38 PM »
Well of course... Jim Bob Jr's dunk uncle is well versed in two rules 7.3.8 and 9.3.3, and he is pretty sure he has 9.1.15 down cold as well.

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Re: Is this new?
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2011, 02:31:08 PM »
I also noticed there is not a necessary field on this form:

"My team won/lost the game."

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Re: Is this new?
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2011, 02:32:05 PM »
Sweet, now I am going to get all of my Facebook friends from all over the world to send me glowing evaluations.

Thanks UIL!!!    tiphat:

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Re: Is this new?
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2011, 02:34:46 PM »
"Official smells of elderberries."

What we have here is another Monty Python fan...

 LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

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Re: Is this new?
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2011, 02:47:12 PM »
I have to say that this form alone speaks volumes for exactly how out of touch the UIL is with officiating.

As flawed and worthless as coaches evaluations already are, do we really need a fans opinion on record?

If it were up to me, I'd make a fan complaint form that directed their concerns to the image of a brick wall. (after they wrote out a very long evaluation of course)

Officials should be evaluated by long time successfull officials of the SAME sport.  No one else.

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Re: Is this new?
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2011, 03:28:36 PM »
My favorite

Officials showed up on time.


Offline Osric Pureheart

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Re: Is this new?
« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2011, 04:48:41 PM »
What we have here is another Monty Python fan...

Surely though it should be "official's father smelled of elderberries"?

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Re: Is this new?
« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2011, 05:51:01 PM »
I just sent Cousin's an email asking WTF.

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Re: Is this new?
« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2011, 07:52:10 PM »
O=Uh oh...now you done it!!!  Guarantee there will be a UIL evaluator at YOUR game this week (armed with this "wonderful" checklist)   Remember..if the defense scores on a PAT it is worth 1 point
« Last Edit: September 20, 2011, 08:39:54 PM by TXMike »

Offline Coby

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Re: Is this new?
« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2011, 08:31:42 PM »
Thank you UIL for designing this survey/evaluation instrument.  As part of my coursework this semester in my Research Design class I have to find a well written and a poorly written survey.  You make my life so easy UIL.  pHiNzuP

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Re: Is this new?
« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2011, 11:27:54 PM »
 ^flag

Well, well! Methinks that my very own crew was amongst the first to have been rated on this "extremely objective form" that was so studiously developed somewhere within the bowels of the  :bOW Manor Road Complex. Although our game evaluation was OK by nature(I graded an "A"), I liked to have fell out of my computer chair when I read the responses that were offered. I'm telling you: I really think that the  tiphat: Manor Road Ringmaster and his  :!# Imbecillic Baboon have truly outdone themselves this time.

But I remain all too sure that there will be a select few of those sympathetic  :bOW UIL lackeys that will, no doubt, come to the defense of the  :bOW Manor Road Minions for putting this most objective officials rating form forward; probably the same ones that so righteously covet the December distribution of those "cheesy" UIL officiating hats over at JerryWorld!   z^

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Re: Is this new?
« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2011, 08:27:41 AM »
arbitrator, you definitely win the award for consistently using the most smilies in your posts.   LOL


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Re: Is this new?
« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2011, 09:49:54 AM »
 ^flag

Solely done to emphasize the LOL ludicrous, my good fellow!  z^

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Re: Is this new?
« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2011, 10:43:41 AM »
What is amazing is that there is no drop down for "official" that I see on the box. Please lets make sure we are evaluated by the folks who have no idea all the details of our advocation and NOT HAVE an option for those that do. 


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Re: Is this new?
« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2011, 11:52:15 AM »

"Official obviously never played the game."

Actually, that looks like it was covered, just in another form:

"Official does not understand the contest."

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Re: Is this new?
« Reply #24 on: September 21, 2011, 12:18:01 PM »
Here's the email I sent to Mr Cousins and the response from Mr Timmons:

"Dear Sir,
Who put this evaluation together? https://www.uiltexas.org/form/officials-evaluation/submit.php?sport=Football

This is probably the worst evaluation form I think I've ever seen.  Why is virtually every question asked in the negative?  Do you really value a "fan" or "family member" evaluation on the officials rules knowledge?  This is a joke right?

Best regards,

Brad Marcum

RESPONSE:

Brad,
If you study the evaluation and the way the questions are posed you will find that the wording allows for a 50/50 positive to negative scenario.  Asking questions in this manner does not allow an evaluator to randomly select all disagree or agree without thoroughly reading the evaluation and selecting the appropriate answer.  This evaluation is a national first with regard to the evaluation of ALL sports officials.  The design and creation of this evaluation was meant to apply to ALL sports so anyone could give their opinion based on their own experience, even if their experience was limited in knowledge and/or substance.  I have found in my experience there is always something to be gained from anyone with an opinion, be it positive or negative, and although I agree that most fans do not posses the capacity to give a legitimate evaluation, I do believe that they could have something to give even if all they pick up on is an officials "attitude". 


We have to constantly strive to put ourselves in a position to improve and this ground breaking evaluation is a great start to allow officials to perhaps get perspectives from those they don’t often get to hear from.  So to answer your question this is NOT a joke nor is it a joke for officials to realize there is something to learn each and every time we step out on to the playing field.  Thanks for all you do for the student-athletes of Texas. 


If you would like to call to discuss any of these issues please feel free to do so!
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