Author Topic: New Rule on Uns Conduct Impacts a Game (Read 30949 times)

TXMike · « **on:** November 13, 2011, 04:08:21 PM »

Blanco - Edna Playoff

http://www.advosports.com/news/2011/nov/13/edna_fb_1113_158379/

blindref757 · « **Reply #1 on:** November 13, 2011, 05:05:42 PM »

Glad it wasn't me!!!

clearwall · « **Reply #2 on:** November 13, 2011, 05:56:21 PM »

Well with no vid or pics, we have to go off what the homer journalist described. Finger in the air gpin in. Yep, that was probably the wrong call. However, the had 1/10 from the 18 and couldnt put it in and overcome the call. These things happen, it's not the OFFICIALS fault you let the call affect you.

110 · « **Reply #3 on:** November 13, 2011, 06:59:30 PM »

Quote from: clearwall on November 13, 2011, 05:56:21 PM

Well with no vid or pics, we have to go off what the homer journalist described. Finger in the air gpin in. Yep, that was probably the wrong call.

IN defence of my colleague in the media, he described the act. It's the coach's comment that kinda spins - but that's the comment he got, and the one I woulda printed in the same situation.

Joe Stack · « **Reply #4 on:** November 13, 2011, 07:33:23 PM »

I don't know how you can defend either the writer or the editor. Nothing was said in the article about an attempt to get information from the officials, the chapter, TASO, or UIL about the call. That's crap.

Zebra27 · « **Reply #5 on:** November 13, 2011, 09:57:12 PM »

I have a standard reply to these types of reactions to official's calls and its simple: "don't ever put yourself as a player in a position to have an official make a judgement call about your actions"

rickref · « **Reply #6 on:** November 14, 2011, 09:19:03 AM »

Quote from: Zebra27 on November 13, 2011, 09:57:12 PM

I have a standard reply to these types of reactions to official's calls and its simple: "don't ever put yourself as a player in a position to have an official make a judgement call about your actions"

I would like to see play on film and see if it was proglonged, choreographed, and truely was taunting the other team. Else no official was really on position to mess this up. If he thought it was wrong then it may have warranted a flag. May is a big stretch for me as well as being critical unless we have it on film.

psv · « **Reply #7 on:** November 14, 2011, 11:06:13 AM »

Quote from: Zebra27 on November 13, 2011, 09:57:12 PM

I have a standard reply to these types of reactions to official's calls and its simple: "don't ever put yourself as a player in a position to have an official make a judgement call about your actions"

I think this is great, and coaches need to tell their players this.

As the back judge, this is generally going to be something I see. I have had a kid raise his hand one time this year as he was running in and give it a number 1. It was early in the season and I didnt flag it. I warned the kid not to do it again (and he didnt, although i couldnt have known that at the time). It certainly wasnt taunting in my judgment and after he scored he ran up and handed me the ball and went to his huddle. The away coach said he got called on it the week before and he thought I should have called it here. Several veteran officials felt the no call was OK.

Since it is a judgment call, this is one of those that gets called "inconsistently" because every officials sees things and calls things just a little bit differently.

rickref · « **Reply #8 on:** November 14, 2011, 12:15:05 PM »

"Since it is a judgment call, this is one of those that gets called "inconsistently" because every officials sees things and calls things just a little bit differently."

This is why TASO needs to use and incorporate a directive philosphy so something like this can be covered and handled consitently. Just my 2 cents.

TXMike · « **Reply #9 on:** November 14, 2011, 12:20:52 PM »

The NCAA can't do it (and Redding's guidance on Uns Conduct suggests it is impossible to do so) so i doubt there is any way TASO (or even the all powerful UIL) could do it.

Arbitrator · « **Reply #10 on:** November 14, 2011, 12:33:27 PM »

Quote from: TXMike on November 14, 2011, 12:20:52 PM

The NCAA can't do it (and Redding's guidance on Uns Conduct suggests it is impossible to do so) so i doubt there is any way TASO (or even the all powerful UIL) could do it.

I wasn't acutely aware that the "all and powerful"

Manor Road Crowd

even knew what a "rule" was, other than "thou shalt pass on to the minions of

Manor Road an absolute minimum of 15% of your playoff revenue!" Sounds a whole lot like some kind of a clandestine State of Texas tax to me!

TXMike · « **Reply #11 on:** November 14, 2011, 12:40:57 PM »

that has not stopped them from writing rule exceptions

rickref · « **Reply #12 on:** November 14, 2011, 01:08:30 PM »

I see to a degree Mike but we still can help on this better. But there was an Email on 10-3 that UNS was addressed. Hopefully it was big.

ljref86 · « **Reply #13 on:** November 14, 2011, 09:35:35 PM »

According to what I was told the player spiked the ball in the endzone after raising his hand at the 3 yard line in a continuation of his " excitement ".

Coby · « **Reply #14 on:** November 15, 2011, 08:56:19 AM »

I went to college with the Edna DC. Just got the tape via HUDL... from my limited eyes.....Not Good
Not so much that it was called but a very similar play was not called on the other team the first half. There was no spike either FYI

Welpe · « **Reply #15 on:** November 15, 2011, 09:35:57 AM »

I wish you hadn't put that on there...ugh.

ljref86 · « **Reply #16 on:** November 16, 2011, 03:10:42 PM »

No spike-Thanks. Any way of posting video ?

TXMike · « **Reply #17 on:** November 16, 2011, 04:51:02 PM »

Video (Part 1)

http://youtu.be/BP2hdVYgxCg

Part 2 up later tonight

blindref757 · « **Reply #18 on:** November 16, 2011, 06:55:05 PM »

Illegal block below the waist on the offense...15 yard penalty from the previous spot, replay the down.

DallasLJ · « **Reply #19 on:** November 16, 2011, 08:26:34 PM »

Quote from: blindref757 on November 16, 2011, 06:55:05 PM

Personal foul...illegal block below the waist on the offense...15 yard penalty from the previous spot, replay the down.

From the motion man? It does appear he starts outside the tackle box and blocks away from his nearest sideline.

blindref757 · « **Reply #20 on:** November 16, 2011, 08:39:22 PM »

He's on the wrong side of the North-South line at the snap for him to block below the waist...his adjacent sideline is to the top of the screen.

blindref757 · « **Reply #21 on:** November 16, 2011, 09:31:14 PM »

R can get that one...pretty obvious. I feel better knowing that Blanco didn't advance on this play...but my crew wouldn't be flagging the finger in the air. We are going to look for something a little more egregious than that to take a TD away in the playoffs.

InsideTheStripes · « **Reply #22 on:** November 16, 2011, 10:14:29 PM »

Am I the only on that's been refreshing for 5 hours to see Part 2?

(Yes - I have an illness.)

TXMike · « **Reply #23 on:** November 17, 2011, 05:26:17 AM »

Sorry, mother was hospitalized yesterday so I was unable to complete the editing till now

This one was flagged
http://youtu.be/-p6L5A4ePLg

blindref757 · « **Reply #24 on:** November 17, 2011, 05:35:40 AM »

Play #1...finger in the air with no high stepping--one minor act = no flag
Play #2...finger in the air with high stepping--two acts = flag

I can support this based on what I see.

I retract my earlier statement...I thought the first clip was the game deciding call.

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