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Headlinesman

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playoff uniform protocol
« on: November 16, 2011, 03:40:08 AM »
Did I notice a Tyler crew working a high school playoff game with a 7 man crew and wearing their college officiating shirts?
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Re: playoff uniform protocol
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2011, 12:03:35 PM »
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Offline backjudge85

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Re: playoff uniform protocol
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2011, 12:51:46 PM »
Well I am sure they must have gotten permission from someone...just that someone didnt have the authority to tell them that it was okay..... nAnA
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Re: playoff uniform protocol
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2011, 01:43:52 PM »
Just so this doesn't get out of hand, the decision was made within the crew that night and no one in an official capacity with the chapter approved it, knew it had happened (until receiving an email fom TASO), or would have given them permission to do so!!
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Re: playoff uniform protocol
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2011, 02:15:01 PM »
Quote from: yogi on November 16, 2011, 01:43:52 PM
Just so this doesn't get out of hand, the decision was made within the crew that night and no one in an official capacity with the chapter approved it, knew it had happened (until receiving an email fom TASO), or would have given them permission to do so!!

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Oh, they could go ahead and cop a plea of certain insanity by just saying that the  :!# Dancing Monkey of  :bOW Manor Road gave them express permission to don those stripes for that game! After all, when TASO says "No,"  :bOW Manor Road will say "Yes!"  z^
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Re: playoff uniform protocol
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2011, 02:20:35 PM »
The bigger stripes make the R look skinnier.  Did he eat his Umpire for dinner?  My god the uniform does not get you any more credit with the coach, but being in shape will.
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Re: playoff uniform protocol
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2011, 03:05:57 PM »
Sorry TexDoc for removing your post, but this wasnt the place to name the officials involved.  It will be handled internally by TASO.
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Re: playoff uniform protocol
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2011, 03:19:06 PM »
Was the post more about the striped shirts or the 7 man crew ?
The Flower mound Marcus v Fossil Ridge at Dallas Cowboy Stadium had a 7 man college crew, but they wore the  " TASO " approved stripes.
I like the 7 man crew idea. 
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Re: playoff uniform protocol
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2011, 03:55:01 PM »
Was this game televised? The crew also has position placards on their 'illegal shirts.' double whammy?
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Re: playoff uniform protocol
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2011, 03:58:41 PM »
I would have to disagree with Yogi's post that any Chapter would have given permission for a crew to wear college shirts.  Position placards are optional according to the book but on the approved shirt but why bring more attention to your self than necessary?  Everyone has been informed on a multitude of occasions (clinics/meetings) that things in Texas High School Football are to be done by the mechanics book.  Some just tend to be rebels and this is not the arena to be a rebel.     
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Re: playoff uniform protocol
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2011, 04:04:50 PM »
Quote from: president on November 16, 2011, 03:58:41 PM
I would have to disagree with Yogi's post that any Chapter would have given permission for a crew to wear college shirts.     
yogi didn't say that
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Re: playoff uniform protocol
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2011, 04:09:19 PM »
from on or around the 7th of September...

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ALL OFFICIALS WORKING TEXAS HIGH SCHOOL VARSITY GAMES MUST WEAR THE APPROVED UNIFORM.

Unless approved by the TASO-Football Board of Directors, officials may not work varsity football games in anything other than the approved uniform.  You are permitted to wear knickers or long black pants, but no other variations are allowed. 

It has come to my attention that some officials are working high school games wearing an NCAA collegiate shirt with 2” stripes.  THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AND MUST STOP IMMEDIATELY! 

The NFL and NCAA purposely adopted shirts that are unique to their level of play.  It is inappropriate for high school officials to wear an NCAA or NFL shirt while working high school games.  The required uniform is clearly described the TASO mechanics manual and the UIL and TAPPS fully support the requirement that Texas high school football officials wear a 1” stripe shirt, not the 2” stripped NCAA collegiate shirt. 

There will be no exceptions made.

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Re: playoff uniform protocol
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2011, 04:11:25 PM »
"or would have given them permission to do so"!!  Copied and pasted from his post.
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Re: playoff uniform protocol
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2011, 04:20:12 PM »
pretty sure he is saying that no one in the chapter would have... but let's see..

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no one in an official capacity with the chapter approved it, knew it had happened (until receiving an email fom TASO), or would have given them permission to do so!!

yup, pretty sure that is saying that they would not have approved it...
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Re: playoff uniform protocol
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2011, 04:22:38 PM »
Quote from: yogi on November 16, 2011, 01:43:52 PM
Just so this doesn't get out of hand, the decision was made within the crew that night and no one in an official capacity with the chapter approved it, knew it had happened (until receiving an email fom TASO), or would have given them permission to do so!!
Sure looks like he said the following:  No one approved it.  No one knew about it.  No one would have given permission if they did know about it.

Quote from: president on November 16, 2011, 03:58:41 PM
I would have to disagree with Yogi's post that any Chapter would have given permission for a crew to wear college shirts.
Just don't see how you get that from what he said.
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Re: playoff uniform protocol
« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2011, 05:12:25 PM »
My mistake.  I agree he is saying no one would approve.
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Re: playoff uniform protocol
« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2011, 06:03:21 PM »
Quote from: ljref86 on November 16, 2011, 03:19:06 PM
Was the post more about the striped shirts or the 7 man crew ?
The Flower mound Marcus v Fossil Ridge at Dallas Cowboy Stadium had a 7 man college crew, but they wore the  " TASO " approved stripes.
I like the 7 man crew idea.

We have used 7 man crews twice in the playoffs.  We offer it to all of them.  We just wear regular stripes.
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Re: playoff uniform protocol
« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2011, 10:19:47 PM »
Quote from: backjudge85 on November 16, 2011, 03:05:57 PM
Sorry TexDoc for removing your post, but this wasnt the place to name the officials involved.  It will be handled internally by TASO.

I apologize to those guys that were named.  We all have lapses in judgment, and I posted their names.  That's a joke in case you didn't catch it.

In the words of our illustrious governor, "oops."
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Re: playoff uniform protocol
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2011, 11:41:38 PM »
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I apologize to those guys that were named.  We all have lapses in judgment, and I posted their names.  That's a joke in case you didn't catch it.

In the words of our illustrious governor, "oops."

You mean:
"in the words of our illustrious governor, 'ummm i errr, i uuh, hmmm uuhh whaaaa, ummm...'"
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Re: playoff uniform protocol
« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2011, 08:56:12 AM »
 ^flagThese boys need to be benched for the remainder of the playoffs, and next post-season as well.  Willful disregard of the uniform standards to advance the perception of your crew as "big time" is simply unacceptable from those who are charged with enforcing the rules.
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Re: playoff uniform protocol
« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2011, 09:18:21 AM »
This crew is working a 3A game this week in Weatherford.  I highly doubt they wear the same shirts.
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Re: playoff uniform protocol
« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2011, 09:30:45 AM »
It is perplexing they would have chosen to do it last weekend since the TASO directive (which I think was reinforced even by the UIL) had been out for awhile already.  Hopefully it was a case of the 10% who never get the word and not a deliberate snubbing of the nose.
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Re: playoff uniform protocol
« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2011, 09:52:21 AM »
Hey, i have a sidebar question regading unis...chain crew uni is white polo, knickers, socks, black shoes. I had a colleague ask about what we can wear if it gets COLD. What are our regulations on cold weather attire on the chains?
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Re: playoff uniform protocol
« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2011, 10:14:06 AM »
Quote from: TXMike on November 17, 2011, 09:30:45 AM
It is perplexing they would have chosen to do it last weekend since the TASO directive (which I think was reinforced even by the UIL) had been out for awhile already.  Hopefully it was a case of the 10% who never get the word and not a deliberate snubbing of the nose.

It is also perplexing that this crew break a rule for whatever reason and then receives another game assignment.  This will only lead to more crews (big timing it) to get more games.  I am sure there is another crew in their chapter that is capable of handling that game.  Even if it is just for one week it would send an appropriate message.
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Re: playoff uniform protocol
« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2011, 11:16:19 AM »
Quote from: clearwall on November 17, 2011, 09:52:21 AM
Hey, i have a sidebar question regading unis...chain crew uni is white polo, knickers, socks, black shoes. I had a colleague ask about what we can wear if it gets COLD. What are our regulations on cold weather attire on the chains?

I would like to see the chain crew wearing black pants.  We are making the first and second year guys waste money on knickers and socks.  Is it TASO required that chain crew wear white knickers?
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